Talk:Civil War (comics)

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Done. The out-of-universe material looks pretty good (although it could be firmed up I'm sure - there are a tonne of external links and they must be useful for this) but the actual plot is devoid of even primary sources so it isn't clear what happened when or where. So the article needs some work before making a B. (Emperor (talk) 19:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC))

Plot Summary piecemeal clean-up

The plot summary seems to have been written as issues came out, without being devided to designate them. That beign the case, there are many uses of terms like "Most recently" "currently" "As x does x" that imply an unknown conclusion that is later shown to be known. I'd prefer if someone more familiar with the story modified these things 206.126.163.20 (talk) 18:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I've tried. Multiple times. But fanboy's like to revert to the current version. *SIGN* 03:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

As long as we're on the topic, I reverted the curious assertation that several surviving New Warriors were -lynched-. Odd. Perhaps this article is purposely being vandalized? Lots42 (talk) 07:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I removed a LOT of original research and uneeded extra bits. I also compressed a lot more. We'll see if it stays. Lots42 (talk) 08:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I've have changed a small bit regarding the hulk rampage though Las Vegas in New Avengers Illuminati Special Shield Tell Iron Man that 26 people 2 kids and a dog was killed in the plot summary it only had 26 people and 2 kids killed BrianBoulnois (talk) 21:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Could someone clean up the grammar in this article please? It jumps from present tense to past tense to future tense, sometimes in the same sentence. Its painful to read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.183.130 (talk) 09:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Image issues

- J Greb (talk) 02:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Image removed - J Greb (talk) 15:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

External links

I removed all but one of the external links, as the list was entirely too long. Many of them look like they could be used as inline citations, but if not they probably don't belong here. For the convenience of other editors I'm moving the deleted links here so that they may be discussed and considered and returned if a consensus is reached on each one.--otherlleft 17:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• The first Civil War trailer from Marvel.com
• The second Civil War trailer from Marvel.com
• Civil War covers gallery
• Civil War variant covers gallery by Michael Turner

Newsarama Coverage

• Newsarama Story on Civil War
• Civil War Q&A panel
• Press release on Sold Out issues
• Article on Civil War: Ceasefire
• Talking Civil War, Millarworld II, & '08 With Millar
• Mark Millar's Civil War post-game show

Newsarama's Civil War Room

During the run of Civil War, the comics website Newsarama ran monthly "Civil War Room" discussions, talking to Civil War editor Tom Brevoort and writer Mark Millar about each issue, the day after it hit the stands.

• Civil War Room #1
• Civil War Room #2
• Civil War Room #3
• Civil War Room #4
• Civil War Room #5 (Tom Brevoort)
• Civil War Room #5 (Mark Millar)
• Civil War Room #6
• Civil War Room #7
• Return to the Civil War Room #1
• Return to the Civil War Room #2
• Return to the Civil War Room #3
• Return to the Civil War Room #4
• Return to the Civil War Room #5
• Civil War Room: One Last Time

Comic Book Resources Coverage

• Joe Quesada's first Civil War interview
• Joe Quesada's second interview
• Tom Brevoort's interview
• Mark Millar's interview
• Retailer reaction to Civil War

Cultural references

Shouldn't this article have a "Cultural references" section? Unlike most super heroe stories, which simply have references to previous super heroe stories, this one (either the main comic book or the relaed ones) are full of cultural references. The 9/11 attacks and how american society reacted to it, the Guantanamo Bay, the american civil war, the assasination of Lee Harvey Oswald, emigration for political reasons, a cameo of George W. Bush, the crossing of the Rubicon (both in a figurated and literal sense), the help of jailed criminal Lucky Luciano to prevent a Nazi infiltration in the US during WWII, and so on... not to mention that self references (meaning, references to other events from within the Marvel Universe) are also important, and span from recent things such as the young avengers to distant ones as the death of Gwen Stacy.

Episodes of The Simpsons make "Cultural references" sections from much less than this... MBelgrano (talk) 02:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I read the series. None of which you mentioned was referenced. And as for the Simpsons eps? I've deleted trivia and speculation from there as well. Lots42 (talk) 10:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Comic tie-ins - Incomplete, and not in read order

This section states at the top "(This list is in read order)". However, having been reading through the comics in the order of the list, I've found this to be not only untrue, but also discovered that the list is incomplete. For a start, it doesn't even include Civil War #7. It then has Wolverine #48 before Civil War #6, even though it is an epilogue to the Civil War. It also doesn't include Fantastic Four #542 or #543. It also has Amazing Spider-Man #536 before Civil War #6, even though an editor's note in the comic states "Pick up civil war #5 and #6 to fill the gap". There have also been a number occasions where I've read a comic and the events seem to have appeared completely out of place in the overall timeline (like Sue walking out on Reed in one comic, and then being with him for the entirety of a comic later on in the 'read order').

Now, I know there is a lot of overlap between the comics, and some (such as the Wolverine story line) are more loosely related to the overall story than others; however, there do seem to be some glaring errors, and omissions. Having not had access to all the comics, I cannot attempt to put the list in the correct order; however, is Wikipedia even the place to attempt such a thing? I think, at most, a list should be given in release order, as this is factual, and non-disputable. I'm yet to find an official or definitive read order, if one does exist, from a reliable source, then I feel it could be included, with reference given; however, if no such list does exist, then doesn't any read order fall into the field of "primary research", and as such outside of the scope of Wikipedia?

Lukens (talk) 13:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Primary research or not, a list in read order would be really helpful. Why don't you suggest one? If some books can't be placed, you could point them out. --Martin de la Iglesia (talk) 21:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

What is clear, for the moment because I'm still reading the complete series, is that Civil War #4 must be before Civil War: X-Men #2 and Cable & Deadpool #31, since they talk and show scenes happened in Civil War #4. The problem for me is I'm not sure where exactly McCuack70 (talk) 20:56, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

May somebody confirm if New Avengers #20 (which is in the list) belongs to Civil War? I had checked lists in internet and I didn't find it, well all lists are from spanish editions, but neither in english. Thank you McCuack70 (talk) 23:03, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Civil War (comics)

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Reference named "Cap3Date":

• From Captain America: The Winter Soldier: Strom, Marc (April 7, 2014). "Captain America to Return to Theaters May 6, 2016". Marvel. Archived from the original on April 7, 2014. Retrieved April 7, 2014. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films: Strom, Marc (April 7, 2014). "Captain America to Return to Theaters May 6, 2016". Marvel.com. Archived from the original on April 7, 2014. Retrieved April 7, 2014. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 12:18, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Removed SPS

I’ve removed citations to the following self-published or otherwise unreliable sources. If it can be shown that they meet WP:RS, please feel free to re-insert them.

TheFoundingFields.com

The site’s About page gives no information on who runs it or writes for it. The review is credited to “Shadowhawk,” but there is no indication of who this is.

The Mountaineer

I can’t find anything about staff, but from its policies page, it appears to be a self-publishing platform.

Blogspot

Unmistakably self-published.

—67.14.236.50 (talk) 18:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Too much unimportant info

This article is largely breathless blow-by-blow plots and endless explanations of all the mind-numbing details that were changed each time the story is revisited in another format. I got rid of most of that but didn't have time to trim the various alternate-earth and sequel "summaries."--~TPW 16:58, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

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