Talk:Clan Morrison
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Don't Give up the Butts of Lewis! This is one great phrase said by the Morrisons, who tried to save this stratigic piece of land from their rivals, the MacClauds!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.7.254.254 (talk • contribs) 22 March 2006
- Given that that phrase is in a language which would have been foreign to both groups at that time i somewhat doubt its validity ;). siarach 09:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Septs of Clan Morrison
editThis section as now written implies that all septs of Clan Morrison derive their relationship from variations of spelling of the original name. But it is my understanding that some septs of various clans aren't actually related by blood at all, but instead were simply families who formed alliances for their own protection or advancement. Could someone address this? MarmadukePercy (talk) 09:08, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- That may be better addressed in the Scottish clan system, just as on the taking of the name of the clan you are bond to or illegitimate children using outside of the standard formalities. This covers just one clan of the many and such issues as you bring up happened across the entire country.C. W. Gilmore (talk) 10:25, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Genetics
editThis article would also benefit, in my estimation, from some mention of the fascinating y-Dna story involving the Morrison surname. There is an external link to the survey. One particular section from the survey notes: "Morrisons of Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina - M060 and M111 have now been confirmed as a match on 33 of 37 markers. In addition, results just received for M129 show him to be a 31 of 32 marker match with M111. These three participants are members of Haplogroup R1a, which in Scotland is indicative of Viking ancestry. The R1a haplogroup originated in eastern Europe and is well-represented in Norway. Interestingly, members of the group have matches as close as 29 of 32 with a group of McLeods from Skye." Surely this interesting little nugget is worth mentioning in passing at least. MarmadukePercy (talk) 09:16, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
BUCHANAN MORRISONS
editClan Buchanan, linked to Anselan O'Kyan from Ulster in Ireland was given lands of Buchanan performing in battle for an early Scottish King beheading an enemy . Succeeding sons of Buchanan chiefs were named Maurice, and from them other groups of Morrisons from SE Loch Lomond area arose .
Dave see clan Buchanan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.163.18 (talk) 17:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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Some Notes on Language
editI don't know where the source of this article's claim that MacGilleMhoire as a source of Morrison, came from, but there's no way! I assume the American source listed has done so on the writer's perception of an alleged phonetic link ... but in fact, there is none. To think there is shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Scots Gàidhlig, how it's written and how it's pronounced. This mess is precisely analogous to the bastardisation of the proper pronunciation of 'Somhairledh' in primarily American genealogical sources -- Somhairledh is NOT 'Somerled', but 'Soverlee'. Similarly, in Scots Gàidhlig the 'mhoire' part of MacGilleMhoire would be pronounced 'vor', NOT 'mori' -- phonetically, mack-illye-Vor. This is plainly nothing like 'Mori(son)', and while MacGilleMhoire might be the root of McIvor, it is highly unlikely to be that of Morrison.
And the statement of what the name MacGilleMhorie means, both here and in the quoted source, is equally wrong: 'mac' does indeed mean son-of, and gille does indeed mean servant (or follower) of-; but mhoire does NOT mean Mary! 'Mary' would be 'Màiri' in Scots Gàidhlig, and it wouldn't be pronounced 'vor'. The mhor/mhoir suffix on a Scots Gàidhlig word enhances the word -- i.e., 'lochmhor' would mean 'a big lake'; claymore (properly claidheamh-mór) is the Scottish great-sword, et cetera. So, MacGilleMhoire would mean 'son of a great servant' ... probably a reference to a 'High Steward' ~ a high-ranking - possibly even first ranked - servant in the royal household.
The Irish etymology listed for Morrison is far more reasonable on the phonetics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.181.93.58 (talk) 10:09, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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editUploaded image of the Clan Badge and the Modern Hunting colours to the Symbols section. I hope this works well, Cheers C. W. Gilmore (talk) 17:42, 24 February 2018 (UTC)