Talk:Clare College, Cambridge

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Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury from 2003 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.87.125 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 1 November 2004

used to be the dean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.58.250 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 5 January 2006

why's Robin Ticciati on as a "famous alumni"? is he really that famous? (really I just want to put myself on there...I'll keep working on it. give me another year or so) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.214.190 (talk • contribs) 20:06, 24 March 2006

Well, fame is always a debatable thing, but he's already been profiled prominently by various media in several countries. Also, if you Google his name it finds "about 18,100" results, and I don't believe there's anyone else with that name. He's certainly "out there" and rising fast. Not a household name, admittedly, but very few classical musicians ever get to be household names outside the world of classical music. Big Brother contestants, however, do (for a short while, at least) become household names. Go figure... And, by the way, is there, or should there be, a Wikipedia policy on notability? Should someone be considered notable and worthy of mention only if they have popular celebrity status? Or is notability through some sort of "contribution" to the world (even if not widely known about) acceptable too? I say, at least in the context of Wikipedia, if in doubt put it in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.8.102 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 26 May 2006

Yeah, maybe you're right. I just wish it was Wikipedia's policy to only allow big brother contestants the title of "famous or notable" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.214.190 (talk • contribs) 10:04, 6 June 2006

I agree. Robin Ticciati is famous. Had a full page in the Evening Standard yesterday (08/05/07) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.217.112.50 (talk • contribs) 10:47, 9 May 2007

Latin Grace?

Following the strange insertion and removal of latin grace (4 December 2006), User:Dr. Peter Feuerstein added it again on 20 December (a more correct version this time) - this is his only contribution. It's since been reformatted slightly (21:22, 2 April 2007 195.217.52.130). It's also not entirely correct, according to the College Handbook. Should it be there at all? I've corrected it and moved it to its own section (which seems to be more sensible), but I think either it should be expanded on (e.g. as a part of ===Catering===) or removed entirely. Elektron 00:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Please be informed that I have received the wording of the prayer you now claim to be incorrect from Clare College directly, as I happen to be an alumni of Clare College. The link you state is broken?!! Furthermore, I am surprised that you have eliminated the link for Prof. Dr. Kurt Lipstein ( I am one of the co-editors of his Festschrift in 1980) to the Squire Law Library and also the 'History of Clare College' by Professor Michael Lapidge. Looking forward to hear from you and especially learn about the acedemic qualifications of the person editing this entry. Dr. Peter Feuerstein ( pfeuerst@tampabay.rr.com). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.170.230.93 (talk) 00:04, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I haven't changed anything, but I would be in favour of having the college grace- it is part of Clare's history. Many of the other colleges have their grace present (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College,_Cambridge) and in the interests of consistency at the very least it seems like a good idea to have it. I do completely agree with the idea that it should be in it's own section though and we should use a verified link, of course. I leave this in the anticipation of a response.86.131.87.223 (talk) 23:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Lists of masters and alumni

Is it acceptable to move the list of masters to a separate article page, e.g. Masters of Clare College, Cambridge, and similarly move the list of alumni to e.g. Alumni of Clare College, Cambridge? Removing the two lists from the main article would appear to me to improve its structure considerably. Comments? -- MightyWarrior (talk) 22:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with moving the alumni list is getting ridiculously long and detracting from the article. (It's also got people who I wouldn't count as notable on.) Should probably have a standardised system for all the colleges, Trinity has the list of masters, but only very notable alumni, with a separate list for the rest of the notable alumni. Jesus has a list of alumni, but the list of masters is on a separate page. I'm torn between moving the both, or just moving the alumni, but am siding with moving both. PoisonedPigeon (talk) 03:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the Masters to a separate article; there is now a well established series of articles for masters of cambridge Colleges; this should join them.--The Sage of Stamford (talk) 21:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Separating out the list is only necessary when the main article gets too large or the list itself is notable enough. There aren't many notable names on List of Masters of Clare College, Cambridge as it is. Why not incorporate it here?--RadioFan (talk) 00:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

As a general proposition, lists do not sit well (IMHO) in a mainly narrative article, although may be acceptable if the list is sui generis. In this instance, we have a clear genre (Masters of Cambridge Colleges) and it would make more sense to aim to complete that as a set, thus establishing a consistency of approach, than have some lists separate and some embedded in the main college article. --The Sage of Stamford (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I support keeping the list of Masters separate. It is reference material, and appropriately kept in another place. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I support having a separate list of Masters, as it improve the readability of the main encyclopedia article. I also suggest (as I did in May 2008 above) that the list of alumni is moved to a separate page - and this list is very long! -- MightyWarrior (talk) 14:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

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