Talk:Clark Street station/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 03:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Alright beginning review.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• Copyvio check fine
• Sourced used are from transport agencies or NYT. Both reliable.
• "The Clark Street station" - I note the article keeps adding the article "The" before the station name. Is it nomenclature for NYCS station articles in general? I find just saying "Clark Street station" more natural. E.g. "Clark Street station is about 80 feet (24 m) deep" instead of "The Clark Street station is about 80 feet (24 m) deep".
  • It indeed is standard practice for NYCS station articles to say "The X station". Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• Reading through the history, you might want to mention the former name (Brooklyn Heights station) in the lead and unbold the former name in the history section of the body.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• "Soon after the station opened, the Public Service Commission began planning to install an escalator there, as passengers had to climb 71 steps to exit the station." - I guess no follow-up on this plan?
  • Nope. To this day, the only access to this station is via elevator. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• Just curious, what's wrong with sailors using the station?
  • When the station opened, it was the closest subway stop to the Brooklyn Navy Yard, which was about half a mile or nearly a kilometer away. Thousands of sailors worked at the Navy Yard, but the Clark Street station's only access point was via two elevators. As such, when sailors traveled to the station all at once, they overloaded the elevators, causing crowding. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

    Ah I see.
    Hmm now the passage becomes: "using it from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. to reduce overcrowding.[33] The station's existing elevators had become overcrowded by 1930." To prevent repetition, suggest "The station's existing elevators had become overloaded/reached beyond capacity by 1930". ZKang123 (talk) 00:41, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

    I have done that. Epicgenius (talk) 01:54, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

• "The New York City Transit Authority (NYCTA) announced plans in 1956 to add fluorescent lights above the edges of the station's platforms.[42] The lights were installed the next year.[43]" - Suggest merging these sentences to: The New York City Transit Authority (NYCTA) announced plans in 1956 to add fluorescent lights,[42] which were installed above the edges of the station's platforms in the subsequent year.[43]
  • Done, but with different wording. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• "The station was selected for a renovation in 1979, and design work for the renovation" suggest "design work for the project" or another substitute.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• "The project was planned to cost $1.25 million" - wonder if "projected" would be fine instead of "planned".
  • This would be repeating the word "project" in close proximity, so I've changed it to "the project was budgeted at $1.25 million". Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• "The MTA hired a new contractor." - was it said whom?
  • Unfortunately, no. The NYT source just says The Clark Street project was designed in 1982. After the year and a half originally allotted for its completion, only 25 percent of the work had been done and the contractor was banished. A new contractor has now been hired. One stop away is the Borough Hall station, similarly behind schedule and already showing signs of premature aging. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• "The new fans had to be modified, as required too much electricity and could not turn on." - This sentence seems worded weirdly. Suggest "The new fans had to be modified, as they required too much electricity and could not be turned on", if I guess that's the original intention.
  • You are correct. I was missing a word there. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• I'm personally amused how the elevators still seem to break down despite various upgrade programmes.
  • Yeah. It certainly doesn't help that the station is open 24/7 and that the elevators are the only access point to the station. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• Minor nitpick, but I wonder if you can just have the "20th century" header to be "Post-opening" and have the "21st century" header to be a subsection of that.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
• The article looks to be in good shape. Putting the article on hold.
  • Thanks for the review ZKang123. I've now addressed all the issues you've raised. Epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Further thoughts

I just realized the article section on station layout didn't say much on the location and its surrounding landmarks. Are there official sources on what the station serves (such as for Singapore).--ZKang123 (talk) 00:44, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

We have neighborhood maps, but there really isn't much in the surrounding area. Unlike Singapore or even other parts of NYC, this is a largely residential neighborhood with low-rise development. Epicgenius (talk) 01:54, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Alright passed.--ZKang123 (talk) 02:25, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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