Talk:Classifications of fairies

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Sgallison in topic Buttery Spirits (again)


Seelie

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Seelie is a very inappropriate title for this article. For one thing, the term is "Seelie court"; "Seelie" in isolation does not indicate the fairy folk. For another, it includes two sections on classification of fairies. Either this needs to be split into two ("Seelie Court/Unseelie Court" and "Trooping fairies/solitary fairies", perhaps) or renamed "Classifications of fairies". Goldfritha 16:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well, I'm moving to "Classifications of fairies". Goldfritha 03:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
It's far too Anglo-centric. What about all the fairies which aren't English or Scots? Slightnostalgia (talk) 17:59, 30 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Clean-up

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For now, I am just cleaning up. The article appears to be written from an "in-universe" POV. Unreferenced material may go flying in this; please provide references to reintroduce. Goldfritha 16:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have shifted the two classifications because my sources indicate the "Seelie/Unseelie" distinction is the older of the two. Goldfritha 16:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Ahem.
Some of the original article apparently did have sources. I can tell because I am deleting section for copyright violation. Goldfritha 16:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

I've done a run through, clearing out duplications and tightening up the prose. The modern usages section was getting rather crufty, so I cleaned that up and made it more prose-y than just bulleted points. I've also added some sourcing. Ironically, I'm not sure I agree with the main gist of this article. I don't think the classifications thing is quite so widespread. It can certainly be sourced to some prominent authors, but not others. I need to give this some thought. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna 23:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)Reply


Buttery Spirits

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Buttery Spirits... is this for real? in the unseelig court section65.26.29.42 (talk) 04:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Probably - in the sense of spirits that inhabit a buttery, getting into the booze and making a nuisance of themselves (e.g. the Clurichaun). 62.196.17.197 (talk) 09:21, 8 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Merged with fairies ?

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Hello (sorry for my bad english), I think to merge this article with fairy is a bad idea. In french we have the article "fée" who will soon be proposed in featured article, and an article "Classification des fées (= classifications of fairies). --Tsaag Valren (talk) 18:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Changelings section

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I'm a little suspicious of some of the information given in the Changelings section. Much as I love Changeling: The Lost, I'm not sure it qualifies as the kind of source Wikipedia's looking for. And unless I'm way off, this section has a distinct touch of C:TL about it. It makes mention of time passing differently in 'Arcadia' - I've never heard the Fae homeland named as Arcadia outside of that game. I may be wrong.

Also, "the magic of the faerie world changes the nature of the humans taken there so that ... they are no longer fully human." Again, this is the basic premise of C:TL, and although it's perfectly possible the concept exists in established fairy lore as well, it'd be nice to identify a source distinct from White Wolf. -- Silence — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.236.222 (talk) 05:46, 15 March 2012 (UTC) ---Reply

"Some[who?] speculate that the reasons faeries want to swap their children with human babies is because they want to be baptised, and consequently possess protection from things like trolls." That sounds like writer's speculation really. Changeling - faerie, troll or elven offspring, switched with a human child. So that the human parents would raise it as their own. Those fae creatures wouldn't kidnap baptised baby (sometimes, that's just regional belief). That's all to it. Plus, that's really modern idea and way of thinking, for a folklore. Faerial point of view, faeries protecting their children from other faerie race. Given the questionable quality of the whole paragraph and loopholes, I don't think there's any credibility to that information. Coolalee (talk) 21:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Seelie and Unseelie

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I keep seeing references in modern literature that connects the Seelie and Unseelie to summer and winter. Despite this, I haven't been able to locate any scholarly works that tie the Seelie and Unseelie courts to summer and winter. If anyone is able to locate any scholarly reference that link the courts with the season could you please add this information to the article (including the source)? Also could someone add a bibliography to this article or a link to the bibliography in the Fairy Wikipedia article? --Archasimos (talk) 20:19, 13 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Buttery Spirits (again)

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I've done some restructuring trying out some new headings. I removed the list of "unseelie" fairies including buttery spirits. I looked through the source (Briggs's Encyclopedia of Fairies) but didn't see where buttery spirits were categorized as Unseelie. Also... this is more in the realm of original research, but it looks like Briggs categorizes several non-Scottish fairies as Unseelie, which is a Scottish concept. Sgallison (talk) 00:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC)Reply