Talk:Clerk of the Privy Council (United Kingdom)

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Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I feel that, as it stands, the article is potentially misleading. At first glance, it looks as if William Honnyng left office on 17 November 1545, when all that happened was that he 'changed seats' when his colleague John Mason left office. I suggest that the article could be re-arranged in the same format as e.g. List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States by seat. This also deals with an institution with multiple members who entered and left office at different times. Alekksandr (talk) 19:44, 18 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

So it would look something like this.

Clerks in Ordinary 1540–present

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Date	One	Two	Three	Four
10 August 1540	William Paget^[1]
23 April 1543	John Mason^[2]	William Honnyng
17 November 1545	vacant
18 December 1545	Sir Thomas Chaloner
March 1547			Thomas Smith
10 May 1548			Armagil Wade^[3]
20 May 1550		William Thomas^[4]
24 September 1551				Bernard Hampton^[5]
12 May 1552	vacant
By 31 March 1553		vacant
19 July 1553		vacant	vacant
30 July 1553	Sir Francis Allen^[5]	William Smith
After 23 December 1566	Sir Francis Allen^[5]	vacant
1570	vacant
29 April 1571	Edmund Tremayne^[6]
1572				vacant
6 July 1572				Robert Beale^[6]
18 July 1576		Sir Thomas Wilkes^[6]	Henry Cheke
After 5 September 1581			vacant
September 1582	vacant
7 October 1584	Sir William Wade^[7]
19 March 1587			Sir Anthony Ashley^[8]
2 March 1598		vacant
21 April 1598		Sir Thomas Smith^[6]
27 May 1601				vacant
18 June 1601				Sir Thomas Edmondes
25 May 1608					Sir Ralph Winwood^[8]	Sir John Corbet^[5]
15 August 1609					vacant
7 September 1609					Sir Clement Edmondes^[5]
27 November 1609		vacant
By 31 May 1610			vacant
22 July 1610			Sir George Calvert^[9]
7 December 1611						vacant
23 August 1613	vacant
24 September 1613	Francis Cottington^[10]
24 February 1614				William Trumbull^[5]
16 February 1619			vacant
February 1619			Sir Albertus Morton
13 October 1622					vacant
7 November 1622					John Dickenson^[5]
11 December 1622	Sir Thomas Meautys^[11]
24 January 1623			Sir William Beecher
September 1635				vacant
9 October 1635				Sir Edward Nicholas^[9]
By 20 January 1636					vacant
26 May 1636					Sir Dudley Carleton^[12]
27 January 1641			Sir Richard Browne^[13]
27 November 1641			Sir Richard Browne^[13]	vacant

Now done.Alekksandr (talk) 15:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

References

^ Left office on being appointed Secretary of State
^ Left office on being appointed joint Master of the King's Post
^ Not continued by Mary I
^ "By 31 March 1553 Thomas had surrendered the clerkship" - Dakota L. Hamilton, ‘Thomas, William (d. 1554)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, May 2005 accessed 20 May 2016
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Died in office
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d Probably died in office
^ Resigned
^ ^a ^b Surrendered his office
^ ^a ^b Probably vacated office on appointment as secretary of state Clerks of the Privy Council 1540-1644 - A provisional list compiled by J C Sainty, April 2004
^ Probably vacated office on appointment as secretary to Prince of Wales
^ He performed the duties of his office until August 1645 when the office became virtually extinct. - The Private Correspondence of Jane Lady Cornwallis Bacon, 1613-1644, Page 56 - died 1649
^ Died 1654
^ In February 1641 he was sent on his first diplomatic mission as ambassador, to the queen of Bohemia and the elector palatine, who were then in the Low Countries, and in the following July he was dispatched as resident to Paris, where he was to remain until 1660. J. T. Peacey, ‘Browne, Sir Richard, baronet (1605–1683)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, May 2008 accessed 13 May 2016

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[1] Left office on being appointed Secretary of State

[2] Left office on being appointed joint Master of the King's Post

[3] Not continued by Mary I

[4] "By 31 March 1553 Thomas had surrendered the clerkship" - Dakota L. Hamilton, ‘Thomas, William (d. 1554)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, May 2005 accessed 20 May 2016

[Death-5] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Died in office

[Probably-6] Probably died in office

[7] Resigned

[Surrendered-8] Surrendered his office

[Vacated-9] Probably vacated office on appointment as secretary of state Clerks of the Privy Council 1540-1644 - A provisional list compiled by J C Sainty, April 2004

[10] Probably vacated office on appointment as secretary to Prince of Wales

[11] He performed the duties of his office until August 1645 when the office became virtually extinct. - The Private Correspondence of Jane Lady Cornwallis Bacon, 1613-1644, Page 56 - died 1649

[12] Died 1654

[13] In February 1641 he was sent on his first diplomatic mission as ambassador, to the queen of Bohemia and the elector palatine, who were then in the Low Countries, and in the following July he was dispatched as resident to Paris, where he was to remain until 1660. J. T. Peacey, ‘Browne, Sir Richard, baronet (1605–1683)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, May 2008 accessed 13 May 2016

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