Talk:Cliff Muntu

Speedy Deletion?

The death of Cliff Muntu is currently a high profile media coverage in Indonesia. It is currently in the news and the case is being developed as a result of Muntu's death, and slowly more information is going to be added to this article. Please read the writing properly before you put the tag, this is not a biography of living person (Muntu is already dead because he's killed by the seniors), and in no way it disparages the late Cliff Muntu. I really regret that Wikipedia administrator did not properly read the writing prior to putting the tag.Chaerani 09:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I notice that the person is changing the speedy deletion tag to Notability criteria. Of course the Cliff Muntu murder case is not a high profile case in US or other english speaking country, but it is a high profile case in Indonesia. If you search google for Cliff Muntu or IPDN in Google, you will come up with many pages in Indonesian news that involves even the President of Indonesia commenting on this case. Therefore, I think the content of the article itself deserves to be considered as notable. However, if it's more appropriate to rename the article to, for example, Students Death in IPDN, go ahead and move the page, and redirect Cliff Muntu. For now, I put it under the page name Cliff Muntu because the current news coverage in Indonesia on the death of students in IPDN revolves around his death in particular, as this one is the most recent and incited high level response from high level government official. I just hope that the Notability criteria is not just governed using US standard of news, because there is more to the world than just US media. I invite Gary Kirk, who is putting the tags into this page ,to participate in the discussion in the talk page and not just haphazardly putting tags into the article. Chaerani 09:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)