Talk:Cluster II (spacecraft)

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Added solar wind heating

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I added the Astronomy banner. Also added a recent observation (with an inline citation) relating to solar wind heating. The date may be wrong, it was the date of the press release, but the article appeared in June.Puzl bustr (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Change of title to Cluster mission

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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: consensus not to move. Andrewa (talk) 19:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply



Cluster (spacecraft)Cluster_mission — The Cluster(spacecraft) page describes in fact the ESA/NASA Cluster mission. Thus it makes more sense to REDIRECT the Cluster (spacecraft) to the Cluster mission page rather than the other way around. No merger needed --Arnaud Masson 17:13, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Strong oppose, possibly move to Cluster (satellite) instead. Yes, it is the Cluster mission, but "mission" is not part of its name; "Cluster mission" means that it is a mission called Cluster. Per WP:SPACENAME a space mission named Cluster operating in Earth orbit should be named Cluster (satellite) (using "spacecraft" instead of "satellite" was an error on my part, although given the multi-spacecraft nature of this mission there could be grounds to make an exception). We've only just managed to get disambiguation in order, lets not screw it up again. --GW 17:20, 22 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose it is called "Cluster". Futher "Cluster mission" should be disambiguated, since there are other mission clusters and cluster missions. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 04:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
  • You convinced me but please keep Cluster (spacecraft) due to its multi-satellites nature.Arnaud Masson 16:23, 23 March (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masson75 (talkcontribs)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Article title again

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The question was raised above as to whether Cluster (satellite) might be a more appropriate article title. Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Article titles reads in part Use "(satellite)" as a disambiguator for unmanned spacecraft operating independently in geocentric orbit; Use "(spacecraft)" as a disambiguator for other spacecraft (my punctuation). This seems to recommend the current name, as these satellites are neither in geosynchronous orbits nor operating independently.

Two issues:

  • Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Article titles looks impressive at first, but there are a lot ogf gaps. Is the disambiguator satellite really best used so narrowly? I'll pursue this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight, to which Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight/Article titles redirects.
  • The proposed alternate name seems highly ambiguous. In common usage, isn't satellite cluster a synonym for satellite constellation?

Interested in other views as always. Andrewa (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Silly me... did anyone else notice my blunder? Geocentric not geosynchronous. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight#satellite article titles for some very gracious and gentle replies. Andrewa (talk) 21:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

(Ahem) so now my red face is fading, I wonder should I or someone else propose a move to Cluster (satellite)? In hindsight I should have relisted the move above to allow more discussion on this but that is a past opportunity. I'll ask the good people at WikiProject Spaceflight again. Andrewa (talk) 21:26, 1 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

The advice there so far is that the move to Cluster (satellite) might even be uncontroversial [1]. Other thoughts?
We now have two people in favour of Cluster (satellite), three if you count me, and none opposed, and so especially if it needs no sysop powers I'm inclined to invoke WP:SNOW and just do it without further formal process. Andrewa (talk) 20:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

I am firmly against to rename this page as Cluster (satellite) since the Cluster mission is composed of 4 satellites flying in constellation.Arnaud Masson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masson75 (talkcontribs) 12:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Discoveries and mission milestones

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I've noticed this article has a section with external links to many of the discoveries this mission has made. While I applaud the effort to demonstrate the impact this mission has had, I'm concerned it's not quite in line with WP:NOTLINK. External links are generally minimized in most Wikipedia articles, with the preferred approach being that the content would be incorporated into the article itself where practical.

Long story short, I believe this article would be improved if this section actually discussed some of the most important discoveries and milestones in text (with appropriate citations), rather than referring the reader to several dozen external links. Cheers! Skyraider1 (talk) 01:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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