Talk:Cockade

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 2A02:8389:41C1:1600:742C:E282:F0F0:BE02 in topic Description of Cockades

Spaniard cockade

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The time-honoured Spaniard cockade was red, like the Austrian one. The Red-and-yellow flag was not the army flag and badge until 1843. Perhaps Joseph I's Spaniard collaborationist army used a red-and-yellow-and-red cockade in the Peninsular War (1808-14), but the Spaniard units that put on fight to Napoleon's army kept on using the traditional red cockade as field badge, edged in white in the case of the 6 Swiss foot regiments on Spaniard payroll. Early in the 18th century the Dutch soldiers in Spaniard pay had used the red cockade along with a green twig. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 09:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

In fact, the red cockade was used up to c.1871.

English Civil War (1640's)

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Royalists_ red. Parliamentary_orange (and sea green in the case of some Protestant Fundamentalist units). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 09:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Great Britain?

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If we're talking modern times, why not "United Kingdom"? Northern Ireland is part of the UK, but not part of GB. 86.149.0.189 (talk) 23:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Medical meaning

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Could someone add a link to / a page about/ a section about "cockade sign" / "cockade phenomenon" in medical use http://www.google.com/search?q=%22cockade+sign%22&hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=countryUS&safe=images&tbs=ctr%3AcountryUK%7CcountryGB THANKS 99.11.160.111 (talk) 07:29, 7 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

List of various national cockades

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I've inserted a list of the various national cockades, based on the list in the Portugese Wikipedia. Please feel free to add to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.0.15.181 (talk) 06:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

In English wikipedia we don't add information without references. - üser:Altenmann >t 03:13, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Altenmann. Great vigilance on your part - the entire article is unreferenced (except for one reference on the "Cockades of the Confederate States"), but you choose to remove this list. So, while you remove useful information, and while we wait on someone to search around for references, here is the list again (colours are listed from the centre of the cockade outwards):

Argentina: sky blue-white-sky blue

Austria (before 1918): black-gold

Austria (since 1918): red-white-red

Belgium: black-yellow-red

Bolivia: red-yellow-red

Bulgaria: red-green-white

Brazil: blue-yellow-green

Chile: blue-white-red with a white 5 pointed star in the blue portion

Colombia: yellow-blue-red

Denmark: red-white-red

Ecuador: red-blue-yellow

Spain (before 1812): red

Spain (current): red-yellow-red

Estonia: white-black-blue

Finland: white-blue-white

France (before 1794): white

France (current): blue-white-red

Germany: black-red-gold

- Third Reich (1932-1945): red-white-black

- Weimar Republic (1918-1932): black-red-gold

- Second Reich (1871-1918): red-white-black

Component states of the German Empire (1871-1918):

- Anhalt: green

- Baden: yellow-red-yellow

- Bavaria: white-sky blue-white

- Bremen: white-red-white

- Brunswick: blue-yellow-blue

- Hamburg: white with a red cross

- Hesse: white-red-white-red-white

- Lippe: red-yellow

- Lübeck: white with a red maltese cross

- Mecklenburg: red-yellow-blue

- Oldenburg: blue-red-blue

- Prussia: black-white-black

- Saxony: green-white-green

- Saxe-Weimar: black-yellow-green

- Schaumburg-Lippe: blue-red-white

- Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt: blue-white-blue

- Schwarzburg-Sonderhausen: white-blue-white

- Waldeck-Reuss: black-red-yellow

- Württemberg: black-red-black

German Confederation (1848-1871): gold-red-black

Great Britain (Stuart dynasty): orange

Great Britain (Hanoverian dynasty): black

Greece: blue-white

Hungary: green-white-red

Iran: red-white-green

Ireland (before 1922): green or sky blue

Ireland (current): green-white-orange

Italy: green-white-red

Japan: red

Mexico: green-white-red

Monaco: red-white

Netherlands: orange

Norway: red-white-blue-white

Paraguay: blue-white-red

Peru: red-white-red

Poland: white-red

Portugal (before 1797): green-white

Portugal (1797-1820): blue-red

Portugal (1820-1910): blue-white

Portugal (since 1910): green-red

Romania: blue-yellow-red

Russia: red-blue-white

Russia (cockade of St. George used by the military): black-orange-black-orange

San Marino: white-blue

Sweden: yellow-blue-yellow

Turkey: red-white-red

Uruguay: white-blue-white-blue-white-blue-white-blue-white

- cockade of Artigas used by the military: blue-white-blue with a red diagonal line

- police cockade: red-white-blue


USA (19th century): black with an eagle in the centre

USA (current): blue-white-red

USA - War of Independence (Union cockade): white-black

USA - War of Independence (Triple alliance): white-black-red

Venezuela: red-blue-yellow

P.S. One of the references is the encyclopedia [[1]|Nouveau Larousse illustré ]]. The cockades are illustrated at the article under each country. The links to each of the volumes can be found in the Wikipedia article. More references are these publications: Anschauliche Darstellung der Staaten aller Welttheile(https://www.raremaps.com/maps/medium/33232.jpg) and Flaggen-Almanach, 1850, plates 62-64 (https://books.google.com.au/books?id=DK1AAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=flaggen&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4-I364JTNAhXC1hQKHdLpA34Q6AEILDAA#v=onepage&q=flaggen&f=false).— Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.0.15.171 (talk) 01:15, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for biringing an attention to the fact that the whole article was unreferenced. In fact it was in this state since as early as 2006. I deleted the whole text. I don't want to even start checking what kind of historical errors it may contain. If you are a fan of the subject, do it correctly. Referencing is the most fundamental policy of English wikipedia, and your irony about my vigilance is gravely misplaced; obviously I was not vigilant enough. - üser:Altenmann >t 02:49, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
I would tend to agree. It is much easier compiling a list from trusted sources than to fact-check every item of an usubstantiated one. Just from a cursory glance I can see that the listing for the French Napoleonic army is incorrect: The revolutionary insurrectionists used the traditional red-blue cockade of Paris; later this was put on top of the Royalist white cockade on the existing army uniforms to create a blue-red-white tricolor (not the same as the 1794 flag). During the 1814 restoration the soldiers simply removed the blue and red part to revert back to royalist colors. You can see this easily by a simple image search for French Napoleonic shakos; however for a temporary proof you may look here or here. There is a complete listing of cocades from the 1792-1815 period in the much respected Haythornethwaite's Napoleonic Sourcebook, which I unfortunately have in storage and not at hand. Geira (talk) 23:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Now a stub

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Wow, someone just reduced this entire article to less than a stub and removed a reference as well.*Trekker (talk) 09:46, 4 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

EDIT: I have now put the article back with sources. Not that hard.*Trekker (talk) 19:55, 4 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Description of Cockades

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In the list some descriptions start with the heart colour, some with the border colour — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8389:41C1:1600:742C:E282:F0F0:BE02 (talk) 23:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)Reply