Talk:Coconut War

References

This article needs more references; I can't find many on the web other than the book by Shears. The Peter Cave reference -- I haven't yet traced him to the Coconut War. And there's a dubious case that this needs to be a separate article; rather, shouldn't it be part of the Vanuatu history section? It wasn't really a "war"; rather, an uprising around the time of independence that failed.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 03:43, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Why do we need to mention one reporter who happened to cover the war? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't care about this one reporter that much; if you wish to leave it out of "your" article, feel obliged; I was trying to help. It says in Cave's bio that he covered the war; but this source was not the best -- I didn't find any direct secondary reports of Cave's coverage. My sense is there are few online references to this subject and I was trying to help this article survive in case it is reviewed by other editors who wonder whether it's notable. I think it really belongs in the history of Vanuatu as a paragraph or two, perhaps; I was only trying to help.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It's not "my" article and I wasn't trying to imply that it was. I was wondering why even mentioning one specific reporter is relevant, since his name does not show up in any of the sources I've read about the Coconut War. It seems like something that would be mentioned in an autobiographical article, but not an article about the war itself. (E.g., we might care that Reporter X was a war correspondent during the Vietnam War, and we would probably include that in Reporter X, but that doesn't mean it needs to be included in Vietnam War.) In my view, collaboration in WP is about discussion and asking questions and assuming that when others ask questions they are asked in good faith. Working together is nothing to become offended about. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 11:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Great you found more sources. If you want to take out the reporter, I agree. Let me know if you need my help. I was concerned that the article didn't have any references and might get deleted, and I thought some references were better than none; but I agree with your reasoning. If you need advice about references, click on Edit this page to look at the text for this discussion page. I advise arranging references so they're checkable with urls. Copy and paste the following blank reference template into your text processor. It begins after the period, beginning with the left-pointing carat (or 2-sided triangle), and ending with the right-pointing carat:

Statement about the Coconut war.

Then, cut and paste source information (you probably know how to do this right -- mark the stuff with your cursor, do ctrl-C to copy, move cursor to right of equal signs, ctrl-V to paste) to the right of the equal signs, so it looks like this:

Statement about the Coconut war.

And, then Wikipedia will automatically number the reference, and include this information at the bottom under references. Try it.

Also, if you want to use the same reference twice, no need to repeat the whole thing, just use the abbreviated form (containing the slash after your code -- important to put slash in) like this:

Second statement about Coconut war but using the same reference.

Now, it's easy for others to check the reference by clicking on it.

If you have a different reference, use a different code, like Olfactory02 or whatever you want.

If you already knew this, please disregard; just trying to be helpful.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I did know about this stuff—I didn't add URLs for the NY Times articles because I don't think most of them are available online. They are, but they are within the NY Times "pay per article" section. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Can I suggest someone reads this detailed account http://www.british-friends-of-vanuatu.com/stuart.htm and then updates this accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.124.243 (talk) 01:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

References

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THis is a terrible article. The name of the war is only one europeans would conjure up. Further, to describe it as a "war" is wholly misleading. Please also note that the British sent the Royal Marines and I believe the French sent paratroopers. I can vouch for the former as my mum used to invite all the young british soldiers round for lunch. THere was also an uprising/trouble on tanna (one of the southern islands). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.124.243 (talk) 00:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree that this article is incomplete (or maybe deliberately skewed for personal reasons), the French did not want direct British involvement, but the British did send troops (Royal Marines (as Infantry), Royal Engineers, Royal Signals and other attached units in small numbers and the Royal Air Force (RAF)). I can verify this as I was one of the said Royal Signals soldiers, we were based at Malapoa College. In addition to a personal testament numerous articles have been written by many newspapers (some globally famous, others not so) including one headline along the lines of "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" referring to a midday run of military personal, in uniform to show our arrival to the local population.

British troops were deployed to Espiritu Santu and provided security up to, and just after, independence, the PNG troops came afterwards. 173.55.253.109 (talk) 18:16, 10 September 2011 (UTC)--173.55.253.109 (talk) 18:16, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

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I cannot find my sources, but my notes are that 100 French paras and 100 British marines landed on July 24. Under the terms of the Condominium there was a balanced number from each power. Because of political interference these forces achieved little other than souveniring the rebel flag before they departed. The important thing they did was re-open the airport so that the 278-man Kumul Force from Papua-New Guinea under Tony Huai could land and end the revolt when they captured the rebel HQ at Fanafo 31 August taking 200 prisoners, for the cost of one (PNG) wounded, and the killing of Jimmy Stevens' son 28 August. It is also possible that one islander died in the initial revolt, shot with a bow and arrow by a rebel. There is no record of any Solomon Islands involvement, and that reference should be deleted. 02:23, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Noel Ellis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis (talk • contribs)

Vemerana or Vemarana?

I've seen both spellings, not sure which is correct. 'Vemerana' gets 4,560 Google hits, 'Vemarana' 3,400. If anybody could get hold of some original source material from the time (official Nagriamel press releases etc.) that might clear it up.WisDom-UK (talk) 18:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)