Talk:Coda

Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move. Jafeluv (talk) 10:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Coda (disambiguation) → Coda — The disambiguation page has already 13 articles linked. Coda is a Latin term which means "tail" - it's not strictly a musical term per se. I believe the time is right and the article numbers there to move the disambiguation page to the main name space. — EastHills (talk) 08:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

• Support - naturally. EastHills (talk) 08:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
• Support. Reasoning explained below. Jafeluv (talk) 09:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
• Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, EastHills, and Jafeluv. Baileypalblue (talk) 17:49, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
• Support I was expecting to find the poetry article, not the music one. 76.66.196.218 (talk) 05:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
• Support per Jafeluv comments below. ENeville (talk) 20:22, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

• See above my rationale. EastHills (talk) 08:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I was just going to put in a Strong oppose and rage about your reasoning, but after checking the facts for myself I actually agree with the page move. However, I don't think the number of pages linked from a disambiguation page is a valid reason to move it from X (disambiguation) to X. The valid reason is explained in Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?, which states: "When there is a well-known primary topic for an ambiguous term, name or phrase, much more used than any other topic covered in Wikipedia to which the same word(s) may also refer (significantly more commonly searched for and read than other meanings), then that term or phrase should either be used for the title of the article on that topic or redirect to that article.". So, if the word "coda" is used to refer to the ending passage of a musical composition "much more often" than any other term, then that meaning should be at Coda, and this page should be at Coda (disambiguation). For example, the BBC page is (correctly) about the British Broadcasting Corporation, even though BBC (disambiguation) lists over 30 other meanings for the initialism, because the former is clearly more commonly used than any of the alternatives.

Now what is the primary topic here, then? Three ways to help determine primary usage listed in the guideline are:

1. Incoming wikilinks from Special:WhatLinksHere: From article namespace, Coda has 228 incoming links with Coda (album) having 178 and Syllable coda having 105. So the musical meaning has more links than the other meanings, but not by much. Note also that a percentage of the incoming links to Coda may actually be intended to refer to something else.
2. Wikipedia article traffic statistics from http://stats.grok.se/: Here, Coda (album) has 22k views and Coda only 14.5k. So clearly the album page is viewed more often.
3. Google search: I checked the first ten English language results for "coda -wikipedia", and of them none referred to the musical passage. There were 2 links to Canadian Winter Sport Institute, with one each to Coda (web development software), Coda (file system), CODA (company) and Co-Dependents Anonymous. Maybe not the most reliable test conceivable, but for me it pretty clearly says that what we currently have at Coda is not "significantly more commonly used meaning" of the term "coda".

For reasons above, I support moving Coda to Coda (music) and Coda (disambiguation) to Coda. Jafeluv (talk) 09:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Wiktionary also lists Coda as meaning the end of a syllable and Coda also means in geology, the gradual return to baseline after a seismic event. There are other alternate meanings to the ones already mentioned above. EastHills (talk) 10:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I added the move template to Talk:Coda and left a comment at Wikipedia:Requested Moves that this move includes moving the Coda page as well. Jafeluv (talk) 12:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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