Talk:Coldest Winter (song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zmbro (talk · contribs) 13:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm bored, let's do this. – zmbro _(talk) 13:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lead

• I've gone ahead and made a few changes myself
• Rest looks solid

Background and recording

• "after persuasion from Malik Yusef" can we change it to just Yusef?

• That's not his real surname, so the current version is preferable. --K. Peake 15:49, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Studios are listed here so why aren't they in the infobox?

•  Done must have missed this by accident --K. Peake 15:49, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Composition and lyrics

• Does Apple Music count as a source for genres?

• It is the notes that are being used as a source, not the genre sidebar, so yes this is reliable. --K. Peake 15:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Hmm, I'll have to keep that in mind. – zmbro _(talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Release and reception

• Section looks good

Music video

• "written by Elderkin and he called it" feels like a run-on sentence; I'd reword.

•  Done split into two sentences --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• "was featured more in it before parts were taken out" reads odd. There's a better word that could be used here, right?

•  Done with changes --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• "said the mix is "gloomier and more foreboding" than the song" → "said the mix is "gloomier and more foreboding" than the original mix"

•  Done with a change --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• "to the "dark" song" can we use a synonym for dark? So we're not directly quoting one word
• "Continuing his review, Dombal" → "Furthermore, he"

•  Done for the above --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• "She explained, depicting West's "own mug" being replaced with "a cleavage-baring, Leona Lewis look-a-like in the spooky, surreal vid" as a smart strategy from him" this whole sentence should be rephrased to something like " She felt that depicting West's "own mug" being replaced with "a cleavage-baring, Leona Lewis look-a-like in the spooky, surreal vid" was a smart strategy from him"

•  Done with changes --K. Peake 16:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Live performances and other usage

• "campaign by performing the song" → "campaign with a performance of "Coldest Winter"."

•  Done --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Why does this whole section use his first name? This can easily be fixed just by changing instances of "Donda" to "his mother"

• MOS:SAMESURNAME, also Donda is introduced as his mother a few sections back so it would read awkwardly to all of a sudden use this instead. --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• "mock snow fell down" the second instance of "fell down". I'd use a synonym

•  Done --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Credits and personnel

• Looks good

References

• Ref 3 doesn't need a location

• This location is mentioned by the source, so why remove? --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• I thought Genius was unreliable?

• WP:RSP writes against song lyrics, annotations and descriptions, none of which are used here. --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Hmm I guess it's good then. – zmbro _(talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Check for overlinking (see it on ref 10)

•  Done must have missed that --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Is Mind Equals Blown reliable?

• The website has a specific category for editorials, in which the article cited is included; this is clearly separated from other content to be clear about pieces that are usable as legitimate sources. --K. Peake 16:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Sounds good. – zmbro _(talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• What is One Country and is it reliable?

• OneCountry delivers news on numerous topics, including pop culture and country music, with a team of various editors. The site is also used for prizes, but notice there is a separate domain for the news, showing the two are distinguishable. --K. Peake 16:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Sounds good. – zmbro _(talk) 19:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Final thoughts

• Overall well done. Once these are resolved, it should be a GA in no time. Hope you're doing well man! – zmbro _(talk) 14:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Zmbro I have now covered everything, do you have any concerns still? --K. Peake 16:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

• Nope. ✓ Pass – zmbro _(talk) 19:18, 22 September 2021 (UTC)