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Pullman
editWhy is there a section on Pullman? I'm sure many colleges would like to host the College GameDay, but have not yet been selected. I don't feel that its relevant to the rest of the article and it should be deleted... --Clarkbhm 17:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- It's gone...Clarkbhm 05:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Locations
editDoes anyone have a database on location, school, ratings, dates, etc for both basketball and football?
- I've removed the tables that, I suppose, were supposed to provide this information. There was only one game in there and it didn't even have all of this information. Furthermore, the table wasn't implemented correctly. I removed it completely. If this information can be provided, I do not object to having it in there as long as it is correctly implemented. Clarkbhm 05:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
i dont see why we need to have a locations section theres no point and u probalby cant get them all
Actually, the show has only gone live for like 10 years, I dont think its that hard
I can't vouch for the accuracy of this list, but here is a list of Gameday football locations and results. BigDT 19:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I can vouch for the accuracy...It's completely correct. ODaddyO
September 30th, 2006 - #1 Ohio State @ #13 Iowa - Iowa City, IA
I feel this location guide is necessary, I would have never found it (I've been looking), but this was the first place I found it at. I think it should stay. If it gets too long, it can be made into its own article. Zchris87v 20:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
The 2010 Illinois-Northwestern game was not in Evanston, but in Chicago at Wrigley Field.
logo
editThere should be a seperate one for college basketball
Huh?
editThis isn't true:
The show's primary sponsor is hardware store Home Depot, who designed and built the show's portable broadcast studio. On rare occasions, when the outdoor broadcast has been "rained out" it will originate instead from the ESPN studios.
On plenty of occasions, they have broadcast in the rain. When they broadcast from the studio, it's because there isn't a game worth going to.
Also, I think "built by the Home Depot" is just an ad slogan - I'm pretty sure that their set predates the slogan and that Home Depot didn't actually physically build the thing. BigDT 19:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the slogan is halfway true. When I attended the game in Fayetteville, Arkansas, Home Depot personnel were called to set up the studio. They could've built the studio also, I just don't know. Mastrchf91 21:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Rife with inaccuracy
editNot much on this page is correct. Don't know who's coming up with this crap...Jill Arrington? C'mon. Do your homework. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ODaddyO (talk • contribs)
- Please feel free to correct anything that is wrong. I have removed the bit about Jill Arrington. BigDT 20:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The use of rankings doesn't seem to be consistent. Some of the rankings are AP (see 2006) and others are USAToday (see 2007). Which set of rankings should be used? Should a note be included that alerts readers about the rankings? Jsmi128 09:47EST, 6 Oct 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:48, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
There is a reason for that. The BCS rankings don't come out until about a third of the season is completed. So yes, the first 4 or 5 gameday's would use the AP rankings. -jrchamp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.39.100.71 (talk) 21:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Interesting (now historical) bias worth adding?
editUntil 2004's Cal @ USC game, GameDay had only ventured west of the Rockies once in its then-11-year history, for a game of the PNW schools (Oregon or Washington, I admit I can't remember). There was a concerted, documented lobbying effort by USC students to get GameDay to visit (including a USC intern ESPN's HQ in Conn), and now there have been a number of West Coast games. To be fair, part of the issue keeping GameDay at bay was how early they would have to start on the West Coast in order to cover the early East Coast games --they were afraid no one would show up, as well as the pervasive cliche that fans out West aren't as serious/crazy as the notably passionate fan bases in the SEC, etc. --Bobak 15:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- The fans aren't as crazy as they are in the SEC; you are right. However, that's not the reason ESPN chooses SEC games. It's because ESPN has a multibillion dollar agreement with the SEC (and not say the Pac-10 or WAC or MWC), and it wants to promote ratings, thereby increasing ad dollars, in order to increase Disney's share value. The ombudsmans (gender neutral) at ESPN have been quite open about these conflicts of interest. Of course, they are only conflicts of interest if there is a perception that ESPN has journalistic duties. The problem is that ESPN is an entertainment company, and there is a prevailing misconception in the public that ESPN somehow has the same responsibilities as the Chicago Tribune or even CNN. If there is any blame to be directed at ESPN, I think it is for not obviating this fact after the Disney takeover. But it doesn't want to, because it relies on the stupidity of the audience, much in the same way the Bachelor tv series fosters the illusion that reality TV isn't scripted.Kcchief915 (talk) 18:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Changed Importance
editI went ahead and changed the importance of this article to Mid from Top because the subject is not core to college football. I was debating whether or not to make the article high or mid. I decided to place it at mid because I am not very familiar with the subject and does not directly affect the sport. Bornagain4 22:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Here's a way to frame it (and I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other): this is the College Football show now, with nary a dissenting voice. The question then is: what would such a show rank: top or middle? I would certainly say at the least where it is now at "mid", but no less. --Bobak 02:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
should new commentators be added
editWhile the core GameDay crew has stayed the same on the Saturday live broadcasts, how about the new folks being pulled in? They brought in Lou Holtz recently, and now they announced (at the first pre-season GameDay last Saturday) that Doug Flutie is on the team. Should that be mentioned, and should the changes in line-up be mentioned from year to year like some other long-running shows? (for a loose example: The Daily Show and its commentators) --Bobak 02:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
September 16 controversy
editI think that, if properly worded, something should be added about ESPN's absurd choice of location for last week's game. The game was probably the 4th biggest game of the day, but ESPN sent gameday there anyway. ESPN pretty much admitted that they chose that location because that was the ABC game. I think it is certainly something worth mentioning as this represents a shift from ESPN usually letting the gameday crew decide where they want to go [1].--Sensation002 02:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Here's a proposed middle ground: I've made it a less SEC-POV footnote with the actual game listing. Tha As of right now, that's all it can realistically be called after less than a week. If there's a trend that lasts beyond one week of the alleged controversy, then maybe there's a reason to add it to main text. At this point, it's likely to be forgotten --especially outside of the passion of the SEC (for example, ND and Michigan fans have been notable apathetic), that blog cited as "authority" is run by two SEC alumni. Right now it's just a slightly toned down version of all the anonymous IP SEC-fan stuff that was thrown onto this article less than a week ago. There are similar issues when fans of The Colbert Report keep wanting to add new articles for every new idea that pops up on the show: the idea there was to see if the new idea (or in this case, "controversy") had legs before canonizing it in an article to be read (assumably) 5 years from now --and outside of one conference. --Bobak 19:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't see how the background of a blogger affects his abillity to quote a post by Chris Fowler. --Sensation002 12:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- What was this about again? I already forgot. --Bobak 20:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner, I have been busy doing things other than patrolling Wikipedia, believe it or not. I don't think your joke is very funny, and I do believe that if Gameday heads out to the west coast again this week then you will see that this is not just a one-time problem. Texas-OU and LSU-Florida are certainly bigger games than a couple of inconsistent Pac-10 teams playing. I would also say that Tennessee-UGA is a bigger game, although I will admit that I am biased toward seeing the crew pay a visit to my hometown. Check back with me when they announce where they are headed this weekend and we will see if this is a problem or not.--Sensation002 19:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- Updated. Hmmm... --Bobak 20:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner, I have been busy doing things other than patrolling Wikipedia, believe it or not. I don't think your joke is very funny, and I do believe that if Gameday heads out to the west coast again this week then you will see that this is not just a one-time problem. Texas-OU and LSU-Florida are certainly bigger games than a couple of inconsistent Pac-10 teams playing. I would also say that Tennessee-UGA is a bigger game, although I will admit that I am biased toward seeing the crew pay a visit to my hometown. Check back with me when they announce where they are headed this weekend and we will see if this is a problem or not.--Sensation002 19:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- What was this about again? I already forgot. --Bobak 20:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't see how the background of a blogger affects his abillity to quote a post by Chris Fowler. --Sensation002 12:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Gameday is at the Vols at Gamecocks, picked over the only ranked vs. ranked game over with the Sooners visiting Missouri. --Bobak 17:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- Reason being because they were apparently "already close", but it was mostly because the week before, they visited Clemson, and to satisfy the SEC, they had to go visit their rival school. As shown by Tennessee's defeat of South Carolina, it would've been more worth it to go to the Oklahoma-Mizzou game.
Picks
editIt would be nice if we could get the picks by Corso and Kirk for all the games.
DK08 20:06
- Agreed. They are listed on the page referenced next to the "Locations" category title if someone wants to add them to the entry. -- TexasDawg 19:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Influence
editSeeing that FOX's NFL pre-game show now takes place outdoors, with fans gathered behind the broadcasters and carrying homemade signs and whatnot - clearly in the GameDay style - shows the program's influence. Are other pre-game shows (regardless of sport) "tailgating?"
Also, should the baskeball version GameDay get a separate article, judging by the length of the football section, like the radio version already has?
- I agree with adding both to the article, I think that the basketball can be expanded, if it doesn't already have its own article. Zchris87v
Fair use rationale for Image:College gameday logo.gif
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Split locations list to a separate list article
editWhat does everyone think? The list is already a major bulk of the article and will only continue to grow as the years progress.↔NMajdan•talk 02:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- I vote we wait until the end of the season, and then a few weeks after the BCS Championship game, move the article over and include only the current (by then, 2008) season's information. This article won't be as heavily visited after the season is over. Zchris87v 22:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Date format
editWhat's up with the date format? I mean I suppose this was to make the artcile more friendly for international wikipedia users, but let's face it, it's about American football at American colleges - does it hurt for the date to be in the format in which it is customarily used in America? Zchris87v 22:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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College Gameday- Spring Game@UF
editWhat does everyone think?
I think it should count be the actual programmed there not just a random segment but the program actually aired.--Levineps (talk) 18:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- I completely AGREE that it should be included because they did a complete episode from Florida before the Spring Game. Same hosts, same stage, same song, same show title! There were dozens of Spring games to choose from and they picked this one for their 2008 preview episode. Had it been a short segment within another show it'd be different, but when they use College GameDay as the complete two hour episode's title, what leads one to not include? Obviously this was the first time they've done a Spring episode, but for sure they'll do it again next year. Keep it there because they were there. --Mtjaws (talk) 18:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
results of the game and Corsos prediction
editI have an idea for the location of the game put, Corso's prediction and the actual result.--Levineps (talk) 22:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Bob Carpenter or Tim Brando
editI couldve sworn that Carpenter was the only host before Fowler, does anyone have any proof it was Brando?--Levineps (talk) 22:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Turned down?
editHas ESPN ever selected a site only to have the school tell ESPN to get lost? --Tss22h8 (talk) 02:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
There was a game they wanted to do at Notre Dame in the late 90's (can't remember what year or who they were playing) where they were turned down. Not b/c they didn't want them there, but there was something going on on campus that day that occupied all of the useful places where gameday wanted to set up, so it just didn't work out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.0.88 (talk) 15:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
split editions
editI remember in the 90's there were a few split editions. Where the "main team" would be at one game and there would be a "secondary team" at a another game. I remember Beano Cook was on one of them. Anyone know any of the other analysts or hosts who appeared?--Levineps (talk) 21:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
college gameday ending in a different location
editI know they've done this a few times. Mostly it will start at the "big" game and if the ESPN Primetime game were "bigger" then normal and close by, they would travel to the 2nd game.
Does anyone on a related note, if ESPN went to the Florida State game after the HBCU broadcast, a few weeks ago?--Levineps (talk) 21:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
- They did stay at FAMU for the entire episode, so that one wasn't split. They did talk about FSU's game though. The only recent "split" I can think of was Texas vs Oklahoma when they did the first half of the show from outside the stadium, and the second half from inside on the sidelines. That was because the game started immediately after the show at noon, and the fans were likely leaving to go inside. Other than that, I think weather is the only other reason they've left the main location. --Mtjaws (talk) 22:26, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Segements
editThis section is completely WP:OR and WP:TRIVIA in my opinion -- totally non-notable.Kcchief915 (talk) 21:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Appeared on Both Versions - What does this mean?
edit"Only Florida State (2011-2012), Kansas (2007-2008), Michigan State (2011-2012), Ohio State (twice in 2006-2007), Oklahoma State (2004-2005), and Texas (2005-2006 and 2008-2009) have appeared on both versions of College Gameday in the same season (although LSU and Michigan State hosted both in the 2007 and 2011 calendar years, respectively)."
I originally read that to be "School X was the feature on both the Basketball and Football College Gamedays in the same school year" but if that's the case, I believe it's missing several programs (Florida, Kentucky, Michigan at quick glance) and the citation link is broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.72.188.250 (talk) 16:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 11 November 2012
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This note from November of 2011 is WRONG. GameDay visited West Point, N.Y., for a game hosted by Army (against South Florida; the broadcast lost power due to area thunderstorms) during Sept. 27, 2003, during which time Army WAS a member of the Conference USA (they went 0-8 in 2003). One can check out page 3 of the C-USA FB record book (.pdf) from the C-USA site if needed. So this stuff about, 'first-ever broadcast from a C-USA team site' relating to the Houston game is totally incorrect. 75.216.28.208 (talk) 17:11, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. Format request correctly (as an "please change a to b because ..."). Also, provide a link to your source. gwickwire | Leave a message 17:17, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
College GameDay Locations
edit2015
Sept 25: #9 UCLA at #16 Arizona
The actual date for this game is Sept 26.76.27.198.89 (talk) 16:50, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2015
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Please change the appearances by school section to reflect that Clemson has hosted 1 and Notre Dame has hosted 0. Refer to the section above labeled 2015 to see that Clemson, not Notre Dame hosted on Oct. 3 Jmdurst (talk) 14:38, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done Thank you. --Stabila711 (talk) 17:29, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2015
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In the History section, Please change the following phrase from: 159 consecutive GameDay broadcasts since 2004.
Change it to: more than 170 consecutive GameDay broadcasts since 2003.
Reason: 1) time sensitive material is now updated and made less sensitive to time, and 2)the original date was quoted wrong from the listed news sources. Tlbs101 (talk) 03:17, 26 October 2015 (UTC)tlbs101 aka Tom Pounds, I am the person who actually started the WSU tradition, that is -- a first person direct source
- Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article.
We have no idea who you really are, but all information must be verifiable in reliable sources - Arjayay (talk) 14:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Appearances By School table
editThe Appearances By School table is confusing - it appears to be appearances only for the year 2015, however it is labelled "through 2015," implying that it covers the history of the show. Please change "through 2015" to "for the 2015 season"
Also, there would be a lot of interest in an updated, correct Appearances by School table for the entire run of the show, also containing a column for conference. I understand there was a separate page that contained that which appears to have been deleted. If a separate page is not warranted (I think it is; there is a lot of interest in the college football fan world on this subject), the table should be included here.
Incorrect Host Site Listed for October 12, 2002.
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College Gameday was not at Texas A&M in 2002. The list shows the game between Oklahoma and Texas A&M being played on October 12th 2002, however this is incorrect as the game was actually played on November 9th, 2002, when College Gameday was in Knoxville, TN. I have no idea which site hosted College Gameday on October 12, 2002, but it was not at Texas A&M. 216.23.200.67 (talk) 16:05, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.
- The source that we have says that the game on November 9, 2002 was played between Miami and Tennessee (which is correct in the article). In addition, that same source says tht the game on October 12, 2002 was at Texas A&M. --Stabila711 (talk) 04:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2015
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- Oklahoma/Texas GameDay location
The location for the Oklahoma/Texas game in 2011 was Dallas, not Arlington.
Stanle2d (talk) 15:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC) Don Stanley
- Done In the future, other Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable sources but I followed the links and found a source that confirms the game was in Dallas. Thank you. --Stabila711 (talk) 19:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2015
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There are several problems related to one error. The list claims they visited New Hampshire vs UMass in 2007. Yes, on that day Gameday was in Hadley, Massachussetts but UMass plays in Amherst, MA. Gameday highlighted the Division III showdown Amherst vs Williams. [2]–UCO2009bluejay (talk) 21:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. You have over 7,000 edits and have been here since 2013. If you see an error please fix it yourself. --Stabila711 (talk) 06:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- I would have done so if not for all of these on the talk page. I don't normally edit pages that have a protection level on them, so I'll do so.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2015
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Rose Bowl 2016 (Stanford vs. Iowa) is incorrectly listed in the article as occurring on January 1, 2015 instead of January 1, 2016. It is in section 3.23 of the article Please change January 1, 2015: #6 Stanford vs. #5 Iowa (Rose Bowl) in Pasadena, California to January 1, 2016: #6 Stanford vs. #5 Iowa (Rose Bowl) in Pasadena, California
Find your own source if you need one. 24.176.44.45 (talk) 03:14, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
- Already done /wia🎄/tlk 21:34, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2016
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Under Locations, year 2001, the December 1st Entry....Tennessee should be bolded as the winning team, not Florida. Thanks! 75.65.90.168 (talk) 03:17, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- Done:fixed-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 03:24, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2016
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The October 18, 2003 game between Wisconsin and Purdue has the incorrect game result. Purdue won this game 26-23, not Wisconsin. Source: http://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=232910275
Move discussion in progress
editThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:College GameDay (basketball) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 18:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Locations section as separate article
editGiven the length of the locations section, and also in light of recent improvements, might it be better for this information to be separated into its own separate article? Rillington (talk) 11:30, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 19 September 2023
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- College GameDay (football TV program) → College GameDay
- College GameDay → College GameDay (disambiguation)
– The football version of College Gameday is clearly the primary topic. Per page views but also reliable sources don't feel the need to denote that it's the college football version being talked about. (See [3], [4], and [5]) A note at the top of this page redirecting people to the basketball version is sufficient. Esolo5002 (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Like the Summer Olympic Games vs. the Winter Olympic Games, or the Primetime Emmy Awards vs. the Daytime Emmy Awards, the pageviews and news spikes for the different College GameDay pages seem to have been seasonal during the past few years.[6] Yes, the article on football program generates such pageviews, but primarily only during the football season between September and January. Once the football season ends, it is the article on the basketball program that generally gets the higher news spikes and the page views until the basketball season ends in April, while the article on the football program gets relatively few during that time. And of course, any reliable source article you find, published in September, talking about college football is likely going to use "College GameDay" without any quantifier; I would need to see how the Google searches and the reliable sources pan out in February and March when the basketball season and the NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament are fully in the news, while off-season football news is not as dominant. Do reliable sources published in the middle of the basketball season also do not feel the need to denote that it's the college basketball version being talked about?[7][8][9] Therefore, I would prefer to error on the status quo on that they have about equal long-term notability. And this would allow the future option of converting the disambig page into a WP:BROADCONCEPT article on the entire College GameDay franchise covering all of those programs, similar to broad concept articles like the Olympic Games and the Emmy Awards. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: These are two different programmes with their own line-ups, features and separate histories which, whilst serving the same purpose and carrying the same name, need to have separate articles. Rillington (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Support - both pageviews and significance. I think a merger into a dabconcept is fine though. Red Slash 22:46, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Pat McAfee field goal contest
editMy name is JJ Johnson. I an almost 70 years old and I know I can kick that field goal and take your money. Just give me a chance!!! Thanks! 75.166.156.67 (talk) 15:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC)