Talk:Come Back Home (2NE1 song)/GA1

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 11:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Your articles do end up getting reviewed by me quite regularly, but there isn't that many song nominations of a reasonable size for me to review outside of my work time so that is bound to happen, honestly. --K. Peake 11:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Infobox recording date is unsourced in the body
• Future Bounce should be piped but listed as DEE.P instead under songwriters

•  Partly done You still need to pipe to Future Bounce. --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• "Korean-language studio album" → "Korean-language studio album,"
• "It was released on" → "The song was released on"
• "2014 in conjunction with" → "2014, in conjunction with"
• "Choi Pil-kang and Future Bounce," → "Choi Pil-kang and DEE.P,"
• Electronic is only sourced as an influence while R&B is not mentioned at all, so add EDM instead of the two and use a comma after reggae

R&B is mentioned in the Melon source, so I will add that in the comp. section.

This is only mentioned as an influence, so why did you list it as a genre? --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, Melon: It is a crossover dance song created by combining several genres of R&B, reggae, and hip-hop. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:41, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

The prose still needs fixing though, as it says the genres are derived from influences. --K. Peake 07:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• The commercial reception should be swapped with critical, plus use the song title in the new placement of commercial
• "went on to sell nearly 1.3 million digital units" → "going on to sell nearly 1,300,000 digital units"

• Why has this chart position been removed from the lead? --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• "the end of the year." → "the end of 2014."
• "It additionally peaked at number 2" → "The song additionally peaked at number two" per MOS:NUM, plus remove the top 10 part from here
• ""Come Back Home" was met with generally positive reception" → "The song received generally positive reviews"
• Mention one or more of the notable awards in a sentence after the above one

I meant in the new order, so the accolades should be directly after the critical reception. --K. Peake 09:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

• Wikilink music video
• "for the single," → "for the song,"
• "on March 2, 2014" → "on March 2, 2014," to follow correct grammar after dates
• Add release year of The Matrix in brackets
• Virtual paradise does not need speech marks surrounding it here
• Mention the reception of the music video in a separate sentence

 Not done There are only two reviews so I'm not sure if its needed in the lead.

• "throughout the month of March," → "throughout March 2014,"
• "in the setlist for" → "on the setlist for"

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 19:59, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Background and release

• The first source says nothing about the album being a success
• "there have been many speculations" → "there had been much speculation"
• "the group's potential second full-length album." → "their then-upcoming second album."
• Pipe single to Single (music)
• "the group to release a new single every 3 weeks" → "them to release a new single every three weeks" per MOS:NUM
• "Yang once again unveiled" → "Hyun-suk once again unveiled"

 Not done per WP:SURNAME

The guideline says to use the surname past the first mention, or is this a patronymic? --K. Peake 09:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Koreans use family name, given name structure so Yang is his surname.

• "of a new series of singles" → "of a series of songs"
• "where YG officially confirmed" → "when YG officially confirmed"
• "the group's second studio-album, entitled" → "2NE1's second Korean-language studio album, titled"
• "to be released on February 24." → "for February 24."
• "the main single." → "the lead single." with the wikilink
• [5] should be at the end of the above sentence as well as its current placement

I rearranged the sentences to align more chronologically

This part appears to have disappeared though, plus the appropriate ref needs to be invoked here even if the stuff is moved. --K. Peake 09:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

You never replied to this comment earlier so now I will ask, why has this part been removed? --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, What part sorry I forgot what this was about ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

It was the sentence about the song being the lead single, I don't know what happened to it... --K. Peake 07:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, Oh, according to the page it states that lead singles are usually released as the first single before the album. Since it was released at the same time of the album and the other title track, I just decided to remove it. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• "among fans due to Yang's" → "among fans due to Hyun-suk's"

 Not done

• Remove commas around the group
• "to Yang's former group," → "to the former group,"
• "the lyrical and concept message would" → "the music video concept would" with the wikilink, per the source

•  Not done This is needed to stop WP:OR. --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• "On February 19," → "On February 19, 2014,"
• "to three days later than it was originally" → "to two days later than originally" per the source
• "Both the album and" → "Both Crush and"
• "were released as planned at midnight local time" → "were eventually released at midnight local time"
• Add [8] as well as [7] since the former verifies the song's release
• "February 27, 2014. The song was made available for digital consumption on multiple platforms" → "February 27, 2014, with the song being made available for digital consumption" since Melon is not a source for multiple platforms but is for various countries
• "A acoustic "unplugged"" → "An acoustic "unplugged"" with the pipe
• "in the album's tracklist." → "on the album."

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 23:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Composition

• Retitle to Composition and lyrics
• Mention the length of the audio sample on the text
• "from electronic, reggae, to trap." → "that include electronic, reggae, and trap." with the pipe
• "Lyrically, the songwriting revolves around the members" → "Lyrically, the song revolves around the group members"
• "arrangement handled by" → "arrangement being handled by both" with the wikilink
• "and Future Bounce." → "and DEE.P of Future Bounce." with the wikilink
• "in standard time signature" → "in the standard time signature" with the wikilink, plus move this to being after the genres sentences
• Pipe key to Key (music)

•  Not done --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• "the track possess a" → "the track possesses a"
• Wikilink tempo
• "the track consists of" → ""Come Back Home" consists of"
• The source mentions pop not electronic, so reword accordingly

Added an accompanying source that supports "electronic(a)", as leaving it out will not adequately describe the song.

• Add a comma after reggae
• "electronica track was reminiscent of the group's" → "electronica track is reminiscent of 2NE1's" with the wikilink
• Add release year of "Falling in Love" in brackets
• The pop mention from PopMatters should be included here, as should the EDM one from Popdust

 Not done I feel like those quotes will just reiterate the same things already stated, unless you have a suggestion.

Since the genre is included you need to specify that the song is pop, plus mention EDM for the same reason. --K. Peake 09:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

• Pipe trap to Trap music (EDM)
• Mention the drums and guitars per the Los Angeles Times

•  Not done This is needed for broadness. --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• Why are the guitars still not mentioned? --K. Peake 07:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  Kyle Peake, Read the third sentence in the section. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• "Benjamin writes, "the girls" → "Benjamin wrote, "the girls"
• "to "come back home"" → "to 'come back home'" per MOS:QWQ
• "to "come, baby baby, come, baby baby."" → "to 'come, baby baby, come, baby baby.'""

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 23:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Reception

• "received generally positive reviews" → "was met with generally positive reviews"
• You need at least one more review to back the above statement up because three is not enough
• Wikilink K-pop
• Remove wikilink on Dazed
• "the song’s relative calm."" → "the song's relative calm"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "and makes it work."" → "and makes it work"."

•  Not done --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• "at number 2," → "at number two," per MOS:NUM
• The stats for the first four days of tracking are unsourced
• "then rose to the top position" → "rose to the top position" to be less wordy
• The record part is not sourced

Looking at Gaon Digital Chart and the discographies of the artists who had more than 9 number one songs, 2ne1 was the first to achieve it by several years.

Add this source then. --K. Peake 09:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Why has this source still not been added? --K. Peake 07:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• "descending to number 3." → "descending to number three." but you need to add the appropriate source(s) for this
• Again, the units and streams stats are not sourced
• "and was ranked as" → "and ranked as" but the units are unsourced
• "becoming their ninth" → "becoming 2NE1's ninth"
• I checked the archive for the World Digital Songs URL and the peak is sourced, but not staying in the top 10 for 9 consecutive weeks so remove or add the appropriate source(s)

I don't know why Billboard decided to delete all their Kpop Hot 100 records from pre-2014, but the page K-pop Hot 100 retains some of the data.

• The list table constitutes of only four, so delete it and move the SBS PopAsia ranking to the first para, the Billboard ranking to reception of the music video section, but the Dazed and PopMatters ones are in prose so no move is required

 Not done I think four entries for a table are fine, especially when the other two listicles have no accompanying text.

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 23:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

When half of them are already written in prose, this is not needed and you can just use a sentence for the two with no text. --K. Peake 09:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Added an additional list

Accolades

• Good

Music video

• Wikilink music video on the img text and in prose
• Remove the word official from the release info, plus you need an actual source for the release date

•  Partly done You missed adding a source. --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• Remove introduction to Hyun-Suk
• Use something more specific than said era, maybe "the era of the time" or "his era"?

He's referring to the futuristic era in the music video.

• Add release year of The Matrix in brackets
• Pipe computer generated to Computer-generated imagery
• "an enter a" → "and enter a"
• There is info about their roles from Billboard, so offer a mention

•  Not done This helps with broadness. --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  Kyle Peake, bom's role as a singer isn't really an integral part of the story so I figured it wouldn't do much to leave it out. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• The use of computer graphics is not sourced as being connected to the production value so remove that from here
• Remove the opening sentence of the second para, as there is not enough reviews to back that up
• "of Inquirer.net wrote" → "of the Inquirer wrote" with the pipe
• "around the world."" → "around the world"."
• "A additional music video" → "An additional music video"
• "its original video, however it" → "the original video; however, it"

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Promotion

• "to promote the single," → "to promote "Come Back Home","
• "throughout the month of March." → "throughout March 2014."
• The exact dates of them appearing on the programs are not sourced
• Remove introduction to Hyun-Suk
• "and incorporated elements from" → "incorporating elements from"
• Remove wikilink on Seo Taiji and Boys
• "for their new song," → "for the song,"
• The part about color suiting it is not sourced

The source says they thought their performance would be perfect if Yang Hyun Suk choreographs it himself, since the title of the song is the same and the point of the song is also hip-hop, so it essentially says the same thing

Sorry, must have misinterpreted that. --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• "on March 1 and 2." → "on March 1 and 2, 2014."

Credits and personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Chart performance

• Retitle to Charts

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Weekly charts

• Add Billboard before K-pop Hot 100 in brackets

 Not done for consistent formatting across K-pop articles ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Monthly charts

• Good

Year-end charts

• Good

Sales

• Remove this altogether since the table is only for sales, no certifications

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Release history

• Format → Format(s)

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

See also

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks decent at 37.1%
• Shouldn't the foreign language refs use the language parameter?
• Cite Newsis as publisher instead for ref 3 and pipe Nate to Nate (web portal)
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 4 and cite Naver as publisher instead, with the wikilink
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 6
• Wikilink Asia Today on ref 7

 Not done I don't think that is the same thing

• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 8 and pipe Vice to Vice (magazine)
• Cite Melon as publisher instead for refs 9 and 10, only piping to Melon (online music service)
• INQUIRER.net → Inquirer on ref 11 and pipe to Philippine Daily Inquirer
• Wikilink Dazed on ref 12
• Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 15
• Wikilink PopMatters on ref 16 and remove it from the title
• Wikilink Gaon Music Chart on ref 18
• Remove the publisher from ref 28
• Cite Billboard as work/website instead for ref 29
• Wikilink SBS PopAsia on ref 31
• Wikilink MTV Korea on ref 33
• Pipe Kpop Herald to The Korea Herald on ref 34
• Remove vchart.yinyuetai.com from ref 36, citing V-Chart as publisher with the wikilink per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 37 and cite Rappler as publisher instead with the wikilink
• Wikilink Financial News on ref 41

 Not done I don't think that is the same thing as that one is based in London and this one is Korean

• I would suggest using the actual title for ref 43, plus change officiallykmusic.com to Officially Kmusic
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 44 and cite Popdust as publisher instead
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 46
• Wikilink Apple Music on ref 48 and cite as publisher instead

 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 02:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed, also I left comments above for where I disagreed with you. --K. Peake 09:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

• Nkon21 Good job on responding so quickly, but I have left comments where things still need fixing. --K. Peake 10:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

• Nkon21 I addressed where things have still not been properly implemented above. --K. Peake 07:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• Nkon21 ✓ Pass now, you have gone over everything where it is needed after a bit of back and forth discussion! --K. Peake 20:05, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  Kyle Peake, Thank you for your time once again! ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 20:21, 27 April 2021 (UTC)