Talk:Committee Representing Pyidaungsu Hluttaw

Why so few?

Only 17? Have the rest been arrested or refused to participate? Sh20802891 (talk) 06:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Actually, according to the constitution, you can't do anything without having 1/3 of Hluttaw representatives. Sh20802891 (talk) 06:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Like the name of the committee, the 17 members represent all MP-elects from NLD party and others which is more than one-third of the representatives. Zin Win Hlaing (talk) 06:42, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't think representatives can ask other representatives to represent them. It's stated in the constitution that you need 1/3 of members present just to hold a meeting. Anyway, I was suprised because I thought there are hundreds of MPs in CRPH. Sh20802891 (talk) 06:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

No, Many MPs from the ruling party NLD have been arrested. That's why so few! Taung Tan (talk) 06:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

It has already been stated in the article "On 4 February 2021, around 70 MP-elects from the NLD took an oath of office in Naypyidaw, pledging to abide by the people's mandate, and to serve as lawmakers for a five-year term. The following day, 300 NLD politicians led by Phyu Phyu Thin formed the committee to conduct parliamentary affairs. The committee held its first session on Zoom."

You can count the number, and calculate the percentage by yourself. Zin Win Hlaing (talk) 07:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

You don't understand my points and being hostile. You can't just form a committee "representing" others. They, themselves representatives, have to represent themselves. Sh20802891 (talk) 07:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Military's fake account !!! So neglect😊 Taung Tan (talk) 07:33, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Youself? 😊 Sh20802891 (talk) 07:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

it's just 15 according to the source. You can read it by yourself. ဖြူဖြူသင်း၊ ရန်ကင်းမြို့နယ် ပြည်သူ့လွှတ်တော်အမတ် ဒေါ်ဇင်မာအောင်တို့အပါအဝင် ရွေးကောက်ခံ ပြည်ထောင်စု လွှတ်တော်အမတ် ၁၅ ဦးနဲ့ ဖေဖော်ဝါရီလ ၅ ရက်နေ့က ဖွဲ့စည်းခဲ့တာ ဖြစ်ပါတယ်။ Sh20802891 (talk) 07:35, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

ရဲနဲ့ စစ်သားဆို စာနဲ့ကို အဆက်အဆံ မပြုပါ။ အဖက်လုပ်ပြီးကို စကားမပြောပါ။ Zin Win Hlaing (talk) 08:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Go bark elsewhere boy. I'm neither. Stop insulting in Burmese. Sh20802891 (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Don't add outright lies into the article. Have some integrity. Sh20802891 (talk) 16:52, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Rename

Propose move to Committee for Representing the Union Parliament - based on "Use English". AndrewRT(Talk) 09:58, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

AndrewRT, nearly all the English sources use the current name, so we should too, per WP:COMMONNAME. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 10:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Certainly agree we should use the name that others are using. I note that Pyidaungsu_Hluttaw redirects to Assembly of the Union. BBC uses Committee for Representing the Union Parliament. AndrewRT(Talk) 10:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

AndrewRT, the naming of a different article is not relevant to a WP:COMMONNAME discussion for this article. It's entirely plausible that "Assembly of the Union" is the common name for the legislative body, but "Committee Representing Pyidaungsu Hluttaw" is the common name for the government in exile. As far as I've seen, only the BBC has used the translated version. I've seen more sources use the current name ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5]). ― Tartan357 ^Talk 19:20, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Is it really a government in exile?

Is there any information that suggests it is based outside of Myanmar, per the definition of Government in exile? Image2012 (talk) 17:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Image2012, the reliable sources call it that, so we do, too. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 19:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

"Claims to represent"

@Xanekka: Please explain your position here. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 23:36, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

CRPH can only "claim to represent" as representation requires a process in which authorization of representation must be granted, either through an election or proclamation of the organization in question stating that some other entity will be representing them. The 15 members of CRPH in question do not hold the authority to represent NLD and NLD has not stated that CRPH now represents NLD. Also, there are no supporting sources to make such a claim that CRPH represents the NLD. As such, a disclaimer should be added to the neutrality of the article, or the prior sentence claiming that it represents NLD should be removed. Xanekka (talk) 23:45, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Xanekka, the article does not say that CRPH represents NLD, though. It says representing National League for Democracy lawmakers ousted in the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état. That is not the same as saying it represents the party or that it represents all elected members of the party. All that means is that the people it does represent happen to be NLD lawmakers. That is true and supported by the sources. Quite a few ousted NLD lawmakers have signed on to CRPH. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 23:50, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Tartan357, then we should state as such. "Quite a few" does not make representation. I propose the following or something similar: "consisting of 15 elected NLD lawmakers, who are supported by a number of (as the number is unclear) other elected NLD lawmakers (add a source that states as such)". Because "representing NLD lawmakers" is misleading. Represent means that a majority has given such authority. And we cannot ascertain that as a fact. Xanekka (talk) 00:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Xanekka, I think you're reading into this a bit. But I'll meet you in the middle. How about "representing a group of NLD lawmakers"? ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Tartan357, thank you. That's fair.Xanekka (talk) 00:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)