Talk:CUPS

Sources and structure

Sources

• LinuxKongress2002 CUPS tutorial
• UPnP standards
• Printer Device V 1.0 and Printer Basic Service V 1.0
• CUPS homepage
• CUPS filter chart
• Chapter 19. CUPS Printing Support
• http://www.cups.org/sam.html#CLIENT_AUTO
• Eric Raymond: the Horror of CUPS

Structure

1. Lead section
2. Overview
3. History
4. References
5. External links

Note to all

I suggest that noone tries to get help on #debian on the Freenode IRC server. I went there looking for a bit of assistance, and immediately got mistaken for another user and got told to piss off. Then when I asked for help about the CUPS filtering system, or a pointer to info, I got told to RTFM. I have. Extensively. So I told them that I had and I was just a bit confused about the filtering system and what calls it. Then I got told that it was a debian channel and not a cups channel. At about that point I noticed that they were abusing some other user, so I said my goodbyes and left the channel. So basically, #debian appears to be filled with elitist knob-heads. I would advise that you leave them to their own little world. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:03, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Welcome to open source. ✈ James C. 23:58, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Nope. Welcome to #debian. Other channels were fine. - Ta bu shi da yu 00:19, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Why is this relevant to any article that's not about #debian on freenode?

Baseline revision

I'm going to start my baseline revision using this article as it's source. See CUPS/Proposed baseline. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:00, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NO CUPS?!?!

I think this sucks, because I am in need of information on cups. not some printing system, but cups! I am researching the innovation of cups, so i put "cups" into wikipedia's search engine, and what I get is a printing system? what's up with that?!?

If you are looking for information on "cup," the drinking vessel, enter "cup" into the search engine. Generally, anytime you want information on something, it is better to not use the plural form of the word. So, for example, if you want information on engines, you enter, "engine," not "engines" (which in this case will redirect you to "engine." The reason you were directed here is because you used the plural form of the word "cup" which also happens to be an anacronym for a printing system. Please note the note at the top of the page helping wayward people such as yourself who are looking for "cup."

OS X

I realise there is no information on this. I think it needs to be discussed, but I don't own a Mac. Anyone want to give this a stab? - Ta bu shi da yu 00:43, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Done: I gave it a stab. However, I think for the most part, It goes through OS X's printer management software which relies on CUPS, then exports it to CUPS.

Some history notes

1.) CUPS 1.0 was released in the fall of 1999. It was in alpha and beta for almost two years prior to this release.

http://slashdot.org/articles/99/10/01/1632200.shtml

Many don't know that when it was in alpha, that we tried the LPD route but found many road blocks of trying to implement a common system that would work on *all* platforms. The main problem was that each vendor's implementation of the printing system was too different from each other. We turned quickly to the standard, IPP to rectify this issue.

When it was in beta:

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=1999-06-09-014-10-NW-SM http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=1999-06-11-018-10-NW-SM

3.) Many Linux vendors have adopted CUPS as either their primary or secondary printing system.

4.) Apple Computers has adopted CUPS as their printing system.

http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L68+I10+T+P1+Qapple

5.) Developed in-house by the company, Easy Software Products. Michael Sweet and Andrew Senft are co-owners of the company.

- Andrew Senft

Great to know! Thanks Andew, when I get the chance I'll update the article :-) Ta bu shi da yu 21:01, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

CUPS 1.2

CUPS 1.2 has been released. Someone familiar with CUPS could update this page with the relevant features of the new release, and take new screenshots. Eventually, I'll do this work but I'll need some time to do research on this subject. GhePeU 22:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Ink management: clean nozzles, how much ink left, which cartridge is empty...

I'm missing a note on how to do all the above (and more ink/printer management related items), that you can usually find in a windows driver. My printer blinks "ink", I changed the cartridge and it still blinks. I have no idea what is wrong. Does anyone know more about this, please? THANKS -- Michael Janich 06:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Technical info, too many sub-headers

This is a nice resource, but it could do with some stylistic cleanup work. In particular, work needs to be done in ensuring that terms are explained (and linked) clearly and on one occasion only. There's quite a lot of redefinition and overlinkage. The section on UIs is also a bit long, and I'm not sure we need screenshots of every distro-brewed front end. Chris Cunningham 11:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... the UI section could probably be refactored. However, where is the redefinition and overlinkage? I wrote the article, so I can't see it - but probably only because I'm too close to it. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:29, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

On Portal:Free software, CUPS is currently the selected article

(2007-02-21) Just to let you know. The purpose of selecting an article is both to point readers to the article and to highlight it to potential contributors. I'm hoping this will attract some contributors to this important article. It will remain on the portal for a week or so. The previous selected article was FOSDEM. Gronky 04:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

The selected article box has been updated again, CUPS has been superceded by OpenSolaris. Gronky 15:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

GA Pass

GA review (see here for criteria)

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   a (prose): b (MoS):

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   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

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   a (major aspects): b (focused):

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   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

It might be a good idea to expand the references in some sections, where there are hardly or no inline citations. There are some red links in the article too, that should be removed. All in all, sufficient for GA status. Martijn Hoekstra 13:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

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Fixed. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Network Software and ports

I would suggest that all network based software show the ports: input/listen port: 515 control/http port: 631 output port: not cited in article

This could be added to all article on network software for consistency. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.23.218 (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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Filters in CUPS

While the diagram shows how complex the filter system is and there is a lot of text devoted to it, I still think that something is missing concerning the spooler itself. Under System V you can write your own filter and use the spooler to serialize access to devices. It seems that you can do that in CUPS but there is no mention to the method to avoid the filtering. Consider the lot of applications which generate files in PCL5 or in PostScript and therefore need no filtering but the ability to send the files to some printer. There are even printers which can process directly PDF files. There must be a method to configure the system in a way that allows sending the file directly to the printer if the selected printer supports that.

Consider as well the possibility to sending files to some device (a modem to send sms?) in which you need perhaps to build a simple filter which deals with the device. --Mcovas (talk) 10:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

CUPS-PDF userbox

Those editors who use CUPS as a PDF printer on Ubuntu can add this userbox to their userpage if they so desire!

If anyone would like other CUPS userboxes (for other distros or uses), I would be happy to make them up for you, please just leave a request here on this talk page. - Ahunt (talk) 17:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Code	Result	What links here
|{{User:Ahunt/CUPS}}	CUPS PDFThis user creates PDFs in Ubuntu with CUPS.	Usage

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Move?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was moved to CUPS. Aervanath (talk) 14:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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Common Unix Printing System → CUPS — The project is being renamed to "CUPS" without the words since Unix is a registered trademark of the X/Open Group. Right now "CUPS" redirects to "Common UNIX Printing System", but we should switch that around and make "CUPS" the main page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Printman (talk • contribs) 06:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

• Not done. Evidence necessary to show that this move is in accordance with WP:ABREV and WP:UCN. Dekimasuよ! 00:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose "CUPS" is way too confusing. If moved, it needs to be disambiguated. CUPS (Unix) or something. 70.29.208.129 (talk) 11:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

*Oppose We definitely need to see a reliable reference to show that this is the case case first. - Ahunt (talk) 12:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC) *Support - Okay I am convinced seeing the CUPS website, however I think that the change in name should be described in the article to give a historical perspective. - Ahunt (talk) 19:32, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

• Oppose At least for now. First, there is no citation for the alleged project name change. Second, as long as the project remains most commmonly known as "Common Unix Printing System", that's what the article title should be. --Born2cycle (talk) 19:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
• Support. CUPS is clearly the official and most common name used to refer to this topic. CUPS already redirects to this article, and there is no evidence of that causing any confusion whatsoever. CUPS (Unix) (or any other disambiguated title) would be unnecessary precision. --Born2cycle (talk) 19:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

• Support Essentially swap article and redirect so that Common Unix Printing System redirects to CUPS, the main article. CUPS is both the official and common name. I agree that the change and reason needs to be described in the article. — Becksguy (talk) 08:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
• Support. Pesky trademarks. 199.125.109.126 (talk) 01:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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B-class

Review and confirm B-class per request. Airplaneman ^talk 05:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

CUPS licence history?

From digging around it looks like CUPS started life under the AFPL in its beta versions but switched to the GPL in version 1.0b3 (as seen on http://freshmeat.net/projects/cups/releases/4458 and by poking through http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/tags/ ) and was GPL for its 1.0 release. Does anyone know when 1.0b3 was actually "released" though as the timestamps on sourceforge seem weird...

82.69.60.196 (talk) 09:20, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Mandriva obsolete, no longer exists

Mandriva was pulled off the shelf from Mandriva.com Perhaps Mageai, it's current existing fork hosts a similar tool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swestlake (talk • contribs) 05:32, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Still PostScript-based workflow?

This article still describes PostScript as being the central format for conversions inside CUPS. From what I read in http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdfasstandardprintjobformat#Introduction, it is no longer the case (since 2006), it is PDF now. I do not feel secure enough to change that myself.

References not up-to-date

The References 7-9 are no longer reachable. I found some design information at https://www.cups.org/doc/spec-design.html. I am not sure if this is the correct replacement... May be all the references should be checked! --HH1946 (talk) 19:09, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

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Version numbers tracked wrong

I noticed that the version number in the infoboxes for CUPS are confused. In the infobox with the Apple repository, the version number is set to the current latest OpenPrinting version. In the OpenPrinting infobox, it was stuck in 2022 before I fixed it a moment ago. Ideally, I think the WikiData references should be fixed to refer to OpenPrinting CUPS, and the infoboxes should be updated to note Apple CUPS's last public release and OpenPrinting's ongoing releases. Rdrpenguin (talk) 03:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)