Talk:Commons club

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Jax MN in topic Cleanup request

Cleanup request

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This article is tagged with a note that it may have content "out of scope". I agree. To an editor who has more familiarity with this group, please help:

It is unclear how the generic form of "commons clubs", which offer open membership rather than tapping members for a more secret process, is distinct from THIS article, which appears to reference the main line, and surviving branch(es) of the original organization formed at Wesleyan University in Connecticut.

Regardless of the fact of its rebirth in ~1990 by adoption of the Indiana group, if it is a restoration of the original Commons Club, this article should probably have a name change (we call this a 'move') to be called "Commons Club", where 'Club' is capitalized. To put it another way, there is a problem with this article, in that it is both about "tissue" and about "Kleenex" - by labeling it "Commons club" it implies it is generic, and emphasizes this point by immediately discussing the 'open' nature of the movement and all such groups, yet the bulk of the article declares it to be a specific brand of commons clubs, called variously the "Commons Club" or "American Commons Club". --The average reader would find this hard to ferret out. Perhaps moving the article from "Commons club" to Commons Club" and moving the generic bit to an explanatory paragraph further down would be a help. This would frame the continuing branches as the 'owner' of the name, and allow you to discuss how the cousins fit in to the picture.

Generally then, I'd advise that an editor more familiar with the history to more clearly explain the branches from the original Wesleyan foundation, and whether the AACC, the National group, or any other branch called a "Commons Club" is part of THIS group or not. A graphic showing the branches would help.

I put a rough (small) image of the crest in the infobox, and a thumbnail of the pin, but I simply am not 100% certain that these are reflective of THIS branch. I think so. Please correct, if not. Jax MN (talk) 17:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Jax MN: Is there a need for a Commons club article? I can either remove the generic content from this article and change its name to Commons Club OR split into two articles (one generic and one specific). Rublamb (talk) 22:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
There may be need for two or even three articles. The first, about the generic, original concept, the next for the National Association, and the third for the American Association. From my perspective, the most glaring defect for this article is the poor graphic for the crest. I looked for some time and this is the best I found. Let me know if you see anything better. Jax MN (talk) 08:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply