Talk:Concerns and controversies at the 42nd Chess Olympiad

Nigel Short incident

I'm still not sure about two aspects here. Firstly, I think the "verbal warning" as noted in the Chess.com report was "official". As an analogue, both of Wesley So's warnings (before he was DQ'd) in the 2015 US Champs were only verbal, yet still official. Moreover, the concept of an "unofficial warning" is hard for me to grasp, as in 13.4a of the Laws of Chess, a "warning" is specifically given as a penalty. Secondly, it's not clear to me whether (at the exact moment) Short actually understood he had to submit to the test (as a matter of regulations). A similar reasoning was actually why Ivanchuk's "refused" drugs test in 2008 was overturned, as the proper person (the Doping Control Officer) was not at the board to notify him at game's end, and the arbiter's plea for him to stay was insufficient. Similarly, at least to me from reading the reports and his own version, it's not clear whether Short "refused" to take the test or was just not sufficiently aware (at that time) that the test was mandatory (in the ACC's eyes). Particularly with his past concerning Jamie Kenmure, even if he understood the request, he might have not thought submitting to this test was required. (Yes, I realize this is legalistic, but it's important to convey the facts as properly as possible.) 129.78.68.110 (talk) 11:45, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Slavic spellings

Are you sure about "Čolooviḱ"? It seems to end with a "c" in any alternate form I can find. He's Macedonian, so it might just be "Colovic"? I've been unable to find an example where he spells it with diacritics.

The Italian Wikipedia list of chess grandmasters seems to exercise care with such matters, and has "Colović", but they might be guessing too. Italian Wikipedia list of chess grandmasters 129.78.68.110 (talk) 11:44, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

According to the official romanisation of the Macedonian language, the transliteration of his name is "Čolooviḱ" as the romanised version of the Macedonian letters "ч" and "ќ" is "č" and "ḱ", respectively. However, when it comes to the use of unfamiliar letters in the English language, one might challenge the official romanisation on the grounds of the most commonly used variants of the name. Practically, we don't have specific guidelines on how to deal with such cases and the whole issue becomes a matter of choice as agreed upon consensus by the community (for example, we use "Gjorge Ivanov" instead of the correct one "Ǵorge Ivanov" or "Novak Djokovic" instead of "Novak Đoković"). The problem with violating the official romanisation is that the English-speaking readers could not guess the right pronounciation of the name (for example, "c" and "č" have different pronounciation). Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that allows easy navigation through its content, my position strongly supports the use of the correct romanisation, because a curious reader could easily check how the specific letter is pronounced and thereby increase traffic to other articles.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:48, 19 September 2016 (UTC)