Talk:Conflict minerals law

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Larataguera in topic Proposed split

Proposed merge with Conflict minerals

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Two, overlapping articles DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 12:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

  Done. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 20:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Redirect from Blood oil

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I've created a redirect from blood oil, given Sebastian Junger's reporting on the subject in Nigeria. I am wary of the prospect of attempted inclusion of conflicts in which oil is a reported motive, rather than means of funding (I can see the 2003 Iraq War being especially likely), but I think it merits inclusion. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 20:51, 24 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Russian military interverntion in Ukraine

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Luhansk that is currently being occupied by the pro-Russian "rebel" forces got some coal and oil that Russia now is trying to sell to the Ukrainians themselves. They literally are forcing them Ukies to fund their own demise. How embarassing! --95.134.33.84 (talk) 22:00, 6 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

DRC

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The article mentions DRC several times but does not explain what it is. Kotz (talk) 12:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC) @Kotz: Elinruby (talk) 07:53, 21 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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No mention of Saudi Arabian oil

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No mention of Saudi Arabian oil yet the article mentions "ISIL" and even goes as far to use the term "terrorist activities". This is certainly POV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.198.102 (talk) 17:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Subjective statements

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I found this article to be subject to editorializing. For example, “An unfortunate irony is that many countries rich in minerals are impoverished in terms of their capacity for governance. Conflict, corruption and bribery may be seen as the typical costs of doing business.[5]”

That comment is based on opinion, and it’s insulting. Can we just stick to the facts? A definition and a few examples with links would be appreciated. 2601:643:8800:6870:84FC:DA84:C9C7:32DE (talk) 22:48, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

I agree wholeheartedly, it's crazily patronizing. The editorial slant honesly makes it kind of hard to get a sense of what's fact or not just reading the article. Of course, it doesn't help that many of the available sources on this topic have a fairly similar attitude, but there's no reason why we have to mindlessly imitate them. I think if we did just stick to material truths the article would be much more informative. Mesocarp (talk) 04:00, 23 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Proposed split

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The article jumps from a very general definition of conflict resources, then spends most of its time talking specifically about US/EU/OECD regulation on 3TG minerals in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. I suggest we merge the general info including stuff like oil/timber/diamonds etc. into Resource war, and refocus this article to the OECD's legal definition of "conflict minerals" in a more narrow sense. I also think disentangling the US/EU legal definition of 3TG with the concept of conflict minerals in general would help avoid weighting the western perspective too heavily, as is currently tagged in the header. 〈 Forbes72 | Talk 〉 15:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's been a week, I've gone ahead and performed the split. 〈 Forbes72 | Talk 〉 16:41, 12 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello, please have Conflict resource point to the appropriate page, thanks!! :) LightProof1995 (talk) 17:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Forbes72, I think there should still be a page titled "conflict mineral" or "conflict resource". I do agree that moving the generalised information about oil/timber/etc out of this article is the right thing to do, because nearly all the literature about conflict minerals refers to 3TG minerals and conflict in the DRC. I suppose there could still be an article about 'conflict mineral law', but we need an article about the minerals themselves and associated conflicts. There is a lot of scholarship that discusses the conflicts without talking about any laws formulated to audit or track these supply chains. (If the article was about 'conflict mineral law' such scholarship about conflict minerals that doesn't discuss conflict mineral laws couldn't be included in the article, because it would technically be WP:OR. Larataguera (talk) 00:24, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Or, looking at it again, maybe it's ok to just redirect Conflict resource and Conflict mineral to the appropriate section in Resource war, at least for now, instead of redirecting here. I'll do that for starters anyway... Larataguera (talk) 19:23, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply