Talk:Conservatism in Australia

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Shiftchange in topic Achievements of the movement

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I'm not much of a conservative, but this sentence seems to me blatantly partisan: "Conservatives generally support keeping the current flag (with its British insignia), oppose multiculturalism, are reluctant to apologize for the treatment of aboriginals, are dubious about postmodernism, and are proud of the nation's British heritage.[10]". It suggests that to be conservative in Australia is to be a racist. Please offer opinions, lacking a change I will try to make it more neutral as per Wikipedia's policy. --124.149.155.40 (talk) 10:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I have removed the generalized accusation of racism, anyone is free to revert it, of course. I just don't believe it to be suitable for Wikipedia nor accurate as an Australian. --124.149.155.40 (talk) 10:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

You removed "oppose multiculturalism, are reluctant to apologize for the treatment of aboriginals, are dubious about postmodernism". It only sounds racist if you believe those positions to be racist. See One Australia policy. Do you think that was racist? Do you think that any part of the text is inaccurate? TFD (talk) 10:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
The One Australia Policy is well in the past, and I do not believe those positions to accurately describe the current Liberal party policies or those of any other existing party for that matter. The amended line was not accurate for current attitudes. Besides, the section was about Republicanism in Australia, and had no relevance to attitudes about multiculturalism. I'd wager the inflammatory statements were included as vandalism.--124.149.155.40 (talk) 22:32, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
The article is about conservatism in Australia, which is a segment of the Liberal Party. According to Malcom Fraser, multiculturalism is still a divisive issue among Liberals.[1] TFD (talk) 22:54, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia states that opinions should not be stated as fact but attributed to specific people: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. It's reasonable to claim that the Liberal party is divided as to immigration in the opinion of former Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser, with a provided citation, but parsing this as a statement of fact is contrary to the NPOV policy.--120.151.148.158 (talk) 00:24, 26 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Achievements of the movement

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This article doesn't cover any real achievements of this movement other than stopping a change in flag design and blocking having an Australian head of state. I am not aware of anything that conservatism in Australian has achieved. If there is something to add, then this is an important aspect this article should cover. - Shiftchange (talk) 01:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)Reply