Talk:Construction of the Minnesota State Capitol

Latest comment: 1 year ago by AirshipJungleman29 in topic GA Review

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Much of the text on "Workers killed and injured during State Capitol construction" was ported from this entry on MNopedia: The Minnesota Encyclopedia under a free Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA license. Please discuss any concerns regarding copyright or other issues with Myotus.
Myotus (talk) 21:47, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Edits to page

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Baffle gab1978 First, thank you for your copy-edits and taking on this article! Your changes have greatly improved the readability and composition of the page text. The only changes I would like to ask about is the following sentences in the lead and in the "Selecting the site" sections.

Lead:
Old: While this was the most expensive of the four sites considered for the Capitol, it was the largest, and the Commission concluded that it was the best location for the building.

New: The chosen site was the largest and most-expensive of the four shortlisted sites, and the commission concluded it was the best location for the building.

Selecting the site:
Old: While the costliest of the four sites, it was the largest, leading the Commission to conclude that it was the best location for the building.

New: Wabasha Hill was the largest and costliest of the four sites, leading the commission to conclude it was the best location for the building.

To me the new text reads as if the site was chosen because it was both large and costly. Where the previous text reads it was chosen in spite of it being the costliest because of its large size which is the case. Can the text be modified to reflect that? Myotus (talk) 10:11, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Myotus:, yes it reads that way to me too; I'll go back and correct the sentences tonight. Thanks for pointing it out, I should have been more careful. :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:59, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
  Done; cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:07, 20 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi @Baffle gab1978 Sorry for not responding. I had reduced my activity for a while. Thank you for all your edits! They all make sence and enhance the quality of the article. Myotus (talk) 23:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Sourcing

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I went to consider reviewing this GA nomination as one of the older ones in the pipeline but had some questions about its sourcing:

  • It currently seems largely reliant on state reports. Is there little secondary source coverage of this construction? If so, that would indicate that this topic is better summarized within its parent article rather than split out just to house primary source detail. Per the general notability guideline, articles require coverage in sources independent from the topic. In this case those would be non-governmental sources.
  • What makes MNOpedia reliable? It appears to be user-generated content from the state historical society but not necessarily vetted by historians? Let me know if I missed something there. Same for the placeography.org wiki cited.
  • Dissertations are not vetted sources so I recommend removing Marconi.

czar 14:32, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 16:17, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'll take this review, but I'll immediately put it on hold, as there are potentially serious issues that need to be addressed. Czar has raised some pertinent problems on the talk page; of them, the first is the most damaging. Is there independent, non-primary significant coverage of the "Construction of the Minnesota State Capitol" as a singular topic? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:17, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

It's been seven days with no response, so I'm failing this GAN. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.