Talk:Contra la Corriente (Marc Anthony album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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I'll put the review on hold, awaiting improvements

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Lead

• Opening sentence: ...is the third studio album released by Puerto Rican-American singer Marc Anthony on October 21, 1997. needs tweaking
• ...produced by Puerto Rican musician Angel "Cucco" Peña with most of the songs... comma after Peña
• No refs needed in lead, as these things are referenced later on
• Looks unbalanced with the second paragraph just one sentence long

Okay, I've used the same opening sentence style used under Para Siempre, a GA article. I've expanded the second paragraph, added the comma, and removed the refs.

Background

• Marc Anthony was already a well-known salsa singer. - cite?
• Is there anything about Anthony's inspiration for the album, the themes found on the album, or its musical makeup?

I've rewrote the whole section for a better understanding. Need a better understanding of the second part you're looking for. Magiciandude (talk) 01:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Recording and production

• He sent tapes to co-producer Peña at the Altamar Music Studios in San Juan, Puerto Rico to get feedback I cannot find this in the source given. What happened after sending the tapes?

It's in the second page of the source: "I built a studio in my house and got musicians to come and play. I would send the tapes to [co-producer] Cuco Pen~a in Puerto Rico and get his feedback over the phone. And we got it done. It was awkward and different and exhausting. So when I say that I'm prouder of this album than any other, there's a reason behind that, because I never felt more vulnerable than while I was making it."

OK, silly me. Can you add to the ref that it is on page two please? Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I said the pages parameter, since the reference covers both the album being recorded in three weeks and getting feedback by phone. Magiciandude (talk) 01:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Commercial release

• Reiterate the release date, and include formats, if possible
• Ralph Mercado presented an award for Anthony for selling over 350,000 copies to Anthony?
• Chart positions like #1 are a major no-no. Rewrite as 'number one' et cetera
• 'nonconsecutive' → 'non-consecutive'
• Contra La Corriente was the first album for the artist to chart this is awkward, please name Anthony
• Billboard certs are for sales, not shipments
• Ref for remastering?

I do not understand what you mean by reiterate, I need a better understanding of this. Nor I don't understand the statement on Billboard since I'm not sure where I said it shipped. Regarding the remastered edition, will any store online (like Amazon) be okay for a source? I've italicize Billboard and replaced "#1's" with "number-one"s for the albums singles. Do I do the same for Billboard #74 position?

I mean re-say the date of release. I meant RIAA certs are for shipments, not sales (I need to go to bed earlier!). Yes, please do the same for #74. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:10, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I've done all you've requested for this section. I changed the statement on sales, again using Para Siempre as a basis and removed "500,000+" from the tables since its stated twice. Magiciandude (talk) 01:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Reception

• Rename this as 'Critical reception', as charts/commercial performance is also reception
• Are there really only three reliable reviews for the album?
• Billboard needs italicising

I've looked over at WP:ALBUM/REVSIT, and only Allmusic and Chicago Tribune had any reviews for the album. Looking up for reviews for Spanish-language albums (especially this old) isn't that easy to find especially since most sites for reviews usually cover only English-language albums. I also italicize Billboard. I've renamed the section as well.

References

• Please make sure that only items in print (ie newspapers/magazines) are italicised

How do I italicize those?

For Italics, just add two apostrophes ( ' ' ) before and after Item to be Italicized. QuAzGaA 00:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but for some reason, the New York Times and Los Angeles Times (the second time), even though the other works are automatically italicize. Even putting the two apostrophes don't seem to work. Magiciandude (talk) 03:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

The work parameter in {{cite web}} automatically italicise it. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I got that fixed. Magiciandude (talk) 21:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

There are also some things italicised which should not be (like allmusic). I will pass it now, though, as it satisfies the GA criteria. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)