Talk:Copa Airlines

Cpzphantom's contributions to this page

I want to comment on Cpzphantom's contributions to this page. This user has posted erroneous information that diminishes the quality of the article. In order to clarify the situation, and to prevent this user to continue posting information that is wrong, I would like to contribute the following:

1. The parent company of Copa Airlines and AeroRepublica is Copa Holdings, S.A. not Copa Holdings, Inc. This company is traded on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol CPA.

2. Copa Airlines flies to 36 destinations in 21 countries (all of the company's press releases reveal this information).

3. Copa Airlines currently DOES NOT fly to Montego Bay, Jamaica.

4. Copa Airlines does not have and has never had a codeshare agreement with Iberia. In fact, its codeshare agreement with Continental Airlines does not include European destinations.

5. Copa Airlines does not have Boeing 737-200's in its fleet since 2005, the year when the last of these aircraft was sold. It does not operate 4 of these aircraft as cargo aircraft. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Schonbrunn (talk • contribs) 00:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

I'm glad someone else noticed (and corrected) the erroneous information posted in this article. I was trying to clean it from all that stuff also. Thanks for your help. --Metalclaus 17:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Response to Cpzphantom's comments on my edits to Copa Airlines

Cpzphantom, it seems to me that you have not understood that the point of this whole site is to provide information on different topics with the same type of credibility as an encyclopedia. Here are a few comments in italics on what you posted on my user talk. I'm reproducing here what you posted on my user talk with a few comments:

Well I see, however, some of your edits are also wrong as well.

First of all, Copa Airlines is one of American Airlines main enemies so that is true, also, American is in a hard ccompetition with copa airlines, so this facts are all accurate This is an opinion, not a fact. What do you mean by hard competition? Fleet size? Destinations? Passengers?

also, codeshare flights are counted as destinations so in total, they are 38 destinations. There you go again. Please, check Copa's press releases and you will find that they do not include codeshare flights as destinations. Codeshare flights to Newark and Houston are operated by Continental with Continental's aircraft.

Copa also offers red eye flights since I flew to JFK departing in 10:30 to 12:45 so those flights are real indeed. Technically, Red-Eye flights operate from 9:30 PM to 5:00 AM, local time. Copa Airlines flights to JFK and LAX depart Panama around 7:30 PM and arrive at their destinations around 12:00-1:00 AM (given the time differences). They do not qualify as red-eye's. If you flew to JFK departing at 10:30 to 12:45, then those flights are not "real indeed" because you did not fly Copa!

And finally, Copa is indeed one of the most advanced airlines around the world so erasing this is incorrect. Once again, opinion

I do not have a problem with you contributing. Just make sure to get your facts straight before posting wrong information Schonbrunn 00:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

My new facts are true

Adding that houston and newark are destinations of copa airlines under codeshare agreements with continental doesn't mean these facts are erroneus, also, then, why copa has agencies in all the world, also, copa is indeed an award winning airline and it has one of the most modern fleet, everything is on its webpage.

Removing "NYSE:CPA"

I'm removing the "NYSE:CPA" from Copa Airlines description because actually the company traded in the NYSE is Copa Holdings, the parent company and not Copa Airlines itself.

--Metalclaus 14:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Award-winning and villains

Actually, American airlines serves the same market as well and about the awards, copa is indeed an award-winning airlines so all you're facts aren't accurate. STOP EDITING CONTENT, WE WANT A FIRST CLASS ARTICLE.

Villains?

Villains? What are you talking about? Your comments make absolutely no sense. You keep posting information that has no objective validity and no aggregate value. Plus, your username has been blocked for copyright infringement so you should not even be posting. You lack the credibility and the facts to make this a "first class site". Let people who have done their research and are contributing facts (not opinions or point of view) do their part in making this article better.--Schonbrunn 01:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Until it... but

Didn't Copa won prizes?

I've made my research

http://www.copaair.com/html/user/default.aspx?PageId=45

http://www.copaair.com/html/user/default.aspx?PageId=1

http://www.copaair.com/html/user/default.aspx?PageId=35

Hope this helps - 201.224.21.146 19:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Cpzphantom

ALL MY EDITS WERE CORRECT THIS TIME, SEE THEM FOR YOURSELF, RESEARCH BETTER AND DISCUSS BEFORE CHANGING SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've broke my back investigating day and night without sleeping cause you say all my info is bad, CHECK THESE LINKS BEFORE UNDOING SOMETHING! 201.224.23.10 04:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Nobody cares what you researched. You are banned. Period. You are not allowed to edit here. Forget about Wikipedia. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

If you really care about this article, please stop. Your never-ending attempt to contribute do harm to its quality.--Metalclaus 15:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe that we can reach an agreement. What if you correct the present edits to the real ones to make the article slighty more informative and more bigger, if you think I'm wrong then see the links above to search for all the facts that will give proof to my hypothesis. then compare all my wrong edits to the facts above and see what of them fits better or rebuild the article again.201.224.24.155 18:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

if that's the case, then why did you edit the article, both of us are correct and both of us revert the other one changes, so, aren't both of us doing damage to the article. Think About It. 201.224.24.155 19:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The only difference between those of us who edit content and, in many cases, revert your posts, is that we have not been blocked or banned from Wikipedia for copyright infringement. Nevertheless, even while blocked, you keep on posting information that a) Does not add any aggregate value to the article or b) it does not have the content that you would find in an encyclopedia article (not an advertising article). Your proficiency in English is also questionable given that most of your posts are most of the times hard to understand.

Please, do all us a favor and get a life once and for all and forget that this article or this site exists. --Schonbrunn 23:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

You are then harming the article, I'm a Panamanian and I flew the airline three times, my content indeed contributes with the details other airline articles have, making this article look like a low importance one, all my facts are true and they have a good value which will possibly atract other persons.

Also, Future Perfect at Sunrise doesn't have proof of my images being a infringement cause the copyvio link doesn't work

200.75.242.211 15:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I just have a problem with some sections, that's all.

In the alliances section, you should add Gulfstream International Airlines since they're one of Copa's partner airlines.

In destinations add that Port Of Spain will be soon a destination, a Copa Airlines map has proof of this.

in affinity programs, try to clean up that zone since it has a list which needs some corrections.

what's up with award-winning, a mexicana de aviacion article has this and it isn't counted as publicitary content as you can see.

I'm just giving some things that are bad and if you don't correct them this article would be all corrupted, I knew that some edits from me were bad as well, but they're just plain errors that should be corrected and that's all, then, you corrected my errors, now realize that the article lacks some info which will give it a stronger reputation, that's all I want.

Last time I repeat, Mexicana de aviacion article will give you a mirror effect of how I want this article to look. 201.224.23.226 04:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, but that isn't original, it doesn't matter, do you want to go down as deep as those Mexicana people, just tellin' you something friend but, you have the reason on something the article is a little screwed up in the Skyteam partners section, sadly I created this account only four days ago, I'm a friend of him, and yes, Gulfstream and northwest are Copa's codeshare partners, you should edit these ones only, last, Port Of Spain, hey instead simply add the airline eventually will be adding more destinations and that's all. Edcoan 12:28, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}

I don't see any specific request, and there is enough disagreement about editing by banned users that I would not make edits if there was a specific request. Please find consensus first, and then request unprotection. CMummert · talk 12:55, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Gulfstream International has technically already been included in the airline affinity edit. Gulfstream is a regional carrier in Florida that operates its planes under the name Continental Connection. In the list of Copa Airlines's associates, it includes Continental Connection. This brandname also include several other small carriers that operate under this name.

As for Port of Spain, it is not included because there is no official recent press release stating when they will (if they will) start flying here. Since opening new destinations changes quite frequently, only those destinations that have been officially announced in company press releases should be included in the destinations page. Including a phrase like "the airline eventually will be adding more destinations" is implied, you don't have to say it because it adds no value.

The idea is to make this article as close to an encyclopedia as posible, with no point of view statements.--Schonbrunn 23:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll tell him about this, and yes, I also think the article was a little wrong since some facts have to do with official press revelation and that of "the airline eventually will be adding more destinations" is just a little off topic since its obvious that an airline will add new flights, but I'm pretty sure I also found a map signalign port of spain, it was in Copa's website, but, oh well, this article will only have current information that means that any future info not confirmed by human personal doesn't add content, didn't its so?

Outdated

The article is outdated, please update it, thanks.

Why is it outdated? It includes all the OFICIALLY ANNOUNCED destinations in the Copa Airlines page. The airline has not taken delivery of the new aircraft so there is no need to add them as part of the fleet.--Schonbrunn 01:14, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Imageless

The article should have images, does anyone has shots or photos for the article? Still add more, also write what's in the photo and add more content to the main summary at the top and add fleet accomodations and details.

Airline, flag or not

I found that some info, says that copa airlines is the national airline of panama, according to this sources.

Copa Airlines is much more than the National Airline of Panama. Using Tocumen International Airport in Panama City as The Hub of the Americas, Copa provides travellers with competitive fares and easy connections between many major cities across North, South & Central America, as well as the Caribbean.

With a modern fleet of 30 Aircraft (Boeing 737-700, Boeing 737-800, Embraer 190) all with a Clase Ejecutiva (business class) and economy cabin, Copa offers services to 30 destinations in 20 countries.

This explanation was retrieved from an offical Copa Airlines website, the source can be found in the main page of such site and can be read here: [1]

for the moment I\'m fixing this facts and replacing some missing summary words. I\'ll be back then after helping on checking other articles standards. also, if you don\'t mind, I\'ll clean this page, you can revert the changes in case you want them back.

Be happy Necroneos 23:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

though I don't want to concur with a vandal, I hate to say this but.

"In the airline industry, a focus city is a location that is not a hub, but from which the airline has flights to at least several destinations other than its hubs."

and as long as I know, COPA has offered flights from some destinations in Latin America others than its hub(s), and I saw those airports in the historial section of the page, they were indeed focus cities, focus cities doesn't need an official confirmation, eventually, hubs do, so I'm restoring this edits until a conflict is risen, if you have any problems, please contact me.

-Necroneos.

Flag carrier

Several editors here have erased good sourced information, the most important, Flag Carrier, Copa is the flag carrier want it or not, this is a very bad joke to anyone knowing about the airline, Copa isn't called the national flag airline of Panama in copaairlines.co.uk, add this or I'll do it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.218.81.108 (talk • contribs)

Stop it

You are a blocked user in no position to make threats. A flag carrier is a STATE OWNED airline. Copa Holdings (and Copa Airlines for that matter) is a company traded in the New York Stock Exchange. That website is not the Copa Airlines's official website (www.copaair.com) so the information found in there has dubious validity.--Schonbrunn 01:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

User:201.218.81.108 is not blocked. I also did not see "add this or I'll do it" to be a threat, perse. Please, everyone, edit with a bit more civility. Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 04:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Should we place more images

I have noted that Copa_air_logo.JPG and Copa_apr-7.JPG were removed, did someone has an explanation for this.

Referenced material

I have just restored the fully referenced material I inserted in May. It should only be replaced or updated with referenced material. All Wiki articles are supposed to cite references and sources. Ardfern 21:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Corrected certain information contributed by user Ardfern after confirming it on the following website http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1345105/000136231007001226/c70706e20vf.htm#108--Schonbrunn 22:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Completed references for Awards--Metalclaus 20:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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Incorrect information about service to Quito

This article states that Copa began service to Quito in 2001. I know that this is incorrect as I took a flight on Copa to Quito in 1997. Perhaps it is correct to say that it began non-stop service from PTY to UIO in 2001 but it did have scheduled service before that but the route was Panama-Guayaquil-Quito-Panama. Can someone please clarify this as I am not entirely sure about the year that this service began.

Thanks 216.48.163.121 (talk) 15:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

OnePass Partners

Although Copa uses OnePass, it does not share Continental's OnePass members. Copa has it's own agreements. You can check for example Virgin Atlantic's web page and Copa isn't mentioned as a Flying Club partner. Same thing for most of the ones listed like Alaska Airlines, EVA, et. al. Members of the other airlines frequent flier programs cannot accrue miles with Copa and to be called partners, it has to be reciprocal. Frapoz (talk) 23:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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Copa Airlines New Livery Concept

Copa Airlines! Somewhere in the border between the American continents you will find one of the most beautiful countries on earth. Panama.

The national carrier called Copa Airlines is the biggest Airline of Panama, and as many people know, it carries the exact same layout as Continental Airlines (nowadays United Airlines) because some years ago, Continental airlines took 51 procent of their shares, and therfore it got rebranded. But nowadays, the amount of shares have been reduced, and the airline is almost not depending on United anymore. After the United airlines livery update, I thought it would be a good oppertunity to take a look at Copa Airlines to suit them in a new livery as well, based on the roots of their shareholder and the color blue to represent the Panama canal with the wave adapted to it. The tail though is very much kept the same as united did with the halftone gradient in the tip. But the globe is now connected to the curved lines on the fuse. I hope you guys like it! As well as @copaairlines