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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of things named after Queen Elizabeth II which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 19:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Coronation of Elizabeth II which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 22:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 9 May 2019

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum 14:06, 18 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

– There was a discussion about this issue months ago, but since not many users participated, I decided to resubmit this request. These two pages need to be moved to the suggested titles per WP:CONSISTENCY. The articles about British monarchs' coronations follow the format of "Coronation of King X and Queen Y" or "Coronation of Queen X" (i.e. Coronation of King William IV and Queen Adelaide, Coronation of Queen Victoria, Coronation of King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra, Coronation of King George V and Queen Mary, Coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth), and a previous discussion showed that there was no consensus against using this format. As a result, there's no reason to treat these two pages differently. Keivan.f^Talk 19:47, 9 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oppose. There could still be an argument for moving these pages, but WP:CONSISTENCY and the outcome of previous discussions do not favor these moves, as I pointed out last time. Talk:Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II#Requested move 9 June 2018 and Talk:List of things named after Elizabeth II#Requested move 26 June 2018 found active consensus in favor of the current titles, and were well-attended discussions; WP:CONSISTENCY (with Elizabeth II) was cited in favor of the current titles at that time. The first close said "There is consensus to move, and a well-supported policy basis in title consistency between a supertopic and its own subtopics, and in consiceness", while the second noted "consensus is clear" with respect to these pages. The discussions explicitly did not show that there was "no consensus against using this format", as I pointed out in subsequent discussion at Talk:Coronation of Elizabeth II#Requested move 18 July 2018. Dekimasuよ! 23:45, 10 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

You're just interpreting a specific part of the discussion in favor of your own argument. While everyone was in favor of removing the royal titles to make the names more concise, when I suggested doing the same to the articles about coronations no Talk:List of things named after Queen Elizabeth II#Requested_move_26_June_2018 there was no specific outcome and nobody suggested removing "King" and "Queen" from the main titles. As a result, List of titles and honours of King George VI was moved to List of titles and honours of George VI but the article about his coronation was unaffected. In fact, we also have articles that include the title "King" or "Queen" in their names (an example would be King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Memorial). Thus, in this case, it's better to establish a consistency between the articles about the coronations of the British monarchs, rather than focusing on the articles that cover one specific monarch (in this case, Elizabeth II). Keivan.f^Talk 14:57, 11 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oppose per User:Dekimasu. WP:CONSISTENCY seems to suggest either the current title, both with reference to the articles mentioned and the base article Elizabeth I of England (not Queen Elizabeth I of England). WP:CONCISE obviously applies too. I don't see a compelling reason to move. — Amakuru (talk) 22:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

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