Talk:Costa Rican colón/Archives/2012

500 colón coin, crawling peg

I have a Costa Rican coin worth 500 Colones that was minted in 2003. I don't know when they were introduced, but they should definately be mentioned in the article.

Why is there a crawling peg?

--- There are two versions of the Costa Rican 2003 500 colones coin. The regular one (shown in the article) which is currently circulating, and is just worth the face value (little less than a dollar). The second one is similar but the numbers are more "stretched" and the central bank reported just 100 of those coins, but among us, the collectors, are known to exist much more than 100. Here in Costa Rica you can get the coin at numismatic fairs for about $40usd.

The crawling peg is now obsolete, but was used because of the big inflation that has affected the country. Daniel32708 05:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

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I believe there are actually three 500-colon coins:

• the first one with the INS building on the back
• the second one (minted 2003) currently circulating with the national seal (escudo) on the back, which is larger to distinguish it from the 100-colon coin
• the commemorative one

I just came across the term "crawling peg" recently and was hoping it was a translation for the new banda system. Does anyone know what the translation is? I don't trust The Tico Times' translations. DBlomgren 13:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

--- Technically there are 5 different 500 colones coins:

• 1-1970 500 colones commemorative coin made out of gold
• 2-2000 500 colones commemorative coin that circulated and which shows the INS building
• 3-2003 regular 5000 colones coin
• 4-2003 error coin
• 5-2005 regular 5000 colones coinwhich entered circulation in 2006.

Daniel32708 07:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

5000 Colon banknote

A friend who recently visited Costa Rica showed me a 5000-Colon banknote yesterday. I'm wondering about the blue sphere in the center of the reverse. What is it supposed to be? --Stormraven 14:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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The blue sphere that appears on the back of the note is a sphere which was made by the native americans of this country, as far as I know the purpose is still unknown. There are many of those spheres around the country (at national parks, etc). There are some which are small and others very big (with a diameter measuring more than one meter). They are however gray, and not blue like the one of the banknote. They are made of solid rock. Go to http://images.google.com/ and type "costa rica sphere" and many of those will show up. The face value of the note is a little less than US$10. Daniel32708 05:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Neat! Thanks for the info, Daniel32708! I also found this here on Wikipedia: Stone spheres of Costa Rica. --Stormraven 14:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggested corrections

I think the captions for the 500-colon coin are reversed; the side with the number should be the obverse and the side with the seal should be the reverse.

Also, the captions for the bills have English mistakes IMHO. We talk about 5-dollar bills and 5000-colon bills (or 5000 colon bills - I won't be anal about the hyphen), not "5-dollars bills" because "dollar" and "colon" in these phrases are adjectives, not plural nouns (similar to 2-year contract, 10-year-old child). If no one disagrees in the next few days, I'll make these changes. DBlomgren 02:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

According to obverse and reverse

the obverse side of a modern piece of currency is the one that evokes that reaction by invoking the strength of the state, and that side almost always depicts a symbol of the state, or the monarch, or any well-known representative of the state.

So IMHO, the coat of arm side is obverse. (I can understand why people would think that the side with number is the obverse because in the case of CRC, it is the more "important" side of daily life. The coat of arm side is the same on all coins. The same mistake is also made on euro coins, where the obverse is actually different national side. On the euro coins article, it has been discussed which side is obverse.)

I agree that "5000 colón bill" is the correct usage. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 15:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

By the way, a kind reminder, don't forget to categorize the images uploaded. I took the liberty of doing so for the colon symbol on commons. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 15:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Remove External Link

cambiodeldolar.com - Economic News and Information about which financial institution provides the best rate. Is obviously someone trying to advertise their site. The official list is in the central bank, which is already listed, why do we need a third party list? (which probably mirrors the official one) and they keep saying that there are interesting news, I SEE NONE. I Just see a lot of advertisement in the ad-sende google style. Please give a good reason of why we have to keep that in the external links; I for my self beleive it should be deleted. Daniel32708 18:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

I also want to express my concern that by having a third-party list, we can not be sure about its accuracy, specially if it is by an unknown company (is it reliable?). It is also unnecesary if we have the official list by the central bank, which is updated daily. The authorized institutions report the information daily to the central bank, which means that any other site having the information is probably mirroring or just copying it. The website in discussion is also full of commercial ads, which makes me think that they are using wikiepdia to attract people to their site. The "news" section of the website is just available in the spanish version and not the english one; anyways the "news" which mostly information about the new exchange system is also posted in the central bank's site. Their "Articles" in the spanish site mostly link to articles in the central bank's server (www.bccr.fi.cr/...) Daniel32708 21:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

I think the cambiodeldolar site is useful. When I Googled 'colón sistema de bandas', this was the first site that came up. As you know, Daniel, there is no one rate now. If I want to change my colons or dollars, this site is useful to me because it tells me where I can get the best rate. Also it's in English, not in Spanish as the BCCR site is, and so easier to understand for English speakers.

P.S. ¿Cuándo vas a hacer tu página usuario? :) DBlomgren 23:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

First of all, the central bank's website lists the same stuff in spanish AND in english. In fact the subpage that links from this article goes straight to the english version.Daniel32708 02:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

I don't like spam on Wikipedia more than any other person. But that website does provide information is that is probably not found elsewhere. In the context of that website, the central bank is just a competing bank for foreign exchange. It does provide some useful information. And it does not try to sell you thing so blatantly. You might find Wikipedia:Spam and Wikipedia:External links helpful (I haven't read through the whole thing). --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 00:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but did you notice that the "information" that it provides is taken staright from the central banks website? (they even link to it) In that case maybe we should add the "subpages" of the central bank to the external links section and not use a third party website to make the link.Daniel32708 02:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

I'd still like to provide both links because cambiodeldolar lists the exchange rates from highest to lowest (or lowest to highest - you can click to change the order - cool!), while BCCR lists only in alphabetical order. It _is_ useful information, and I don't even pay attention to the links. I think many readers will find it more user-friendly than the Central Bank site. DBlomgren 04:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

For some reason, I can't find the link. I trust that you say is true.. In that case, I believe adding the CB link (that has rates from various banks) would be most appropriate. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 02:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Here they are:

http://www.bccr.fi.cr/documentos/metas/archivos/FuncMerCamb.pdf http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2006/noviembre/23/economia904758.html http://www.bccr.fi.cr/documentos/metas/archivos/Guia_banda_cambiaria_CR.pdf http://www.bccr.fi.cr/documentos/metas/archivos/FuncMerCamb.pdf http://www.bccr.fi.cr/documentos/metas/archivos/Guia_banda_cambiaria_CR.pdf Every article links to other websites, mostly Central Bank.

---Please check http://indicadoreseconomicos.bccr.fi.cr/IndicadoresEconomicos/SiteSDDEEnglish/indexIng.aspx for more documents. And http://indicadoreseconomicos.bccr.fi.cr/IndicadoresEconomicos/SiteSDDEEnglish/IndicadoresEconomicosIng/frmEstructuraInformacionIng.aspx?idioma=I&codMenu=%2071&DesTitulo=Daily%20Information for official exchange information of the Colon versus other currencies. Daniel32708 03:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

I have to agree with Dblomgren, in the fact of having both links the one from cambiodeldolar.com and central bank list.

1. cambiodeldolar has meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article.

2. is a user friendly application to determine what is the best rate of exchange for the user.

3. Most of the websites have a comercial purpose in some end, but this doesn't mean that it is not a good source of information, if you want to remove comercial sites, why have not you deleted the Yahoo Finance link or even better the XE.com that its exchange calculation has a forex purpose.

4. If you want to talk abour Mirror_site please try to investigate better what a mirrpr site is.

5. Also if a website its linking or putting refference of their source, its more legitimate because they are respecting the author's copyrigths. so I dont find anything wrong with cambiodeldolar to be included.

Also I have changed the Central Bank link to an upper level were you can have the complete kind of exchanges rates. Arturo.rs 05:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

1 - can you please describe what useful and relevant information is on that website?

2-have you seen the official list?

3-This one exceeds commercials, anyways that is not the main point.

4-I understand that this is not technically a mirror site, but it does get its information from the central bank, whose list is already an external link...

5-only in spanish version... in the english one? no.

Daniel32708 06:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Again my point, if everything on that website is taken from the central bank's website.... why don't we just link to the central bank's site and stop ussing a "mediator" ?Daniel32708 06:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Daniel to answer you about what it is useful, The fact that even though, they are feeding the info from Central Bank, what they do with the info its the useful thing. If you can see BCCR have an static list which cambiodeldolar makes it dynamic where you can sort the list, in different ways, also you can filter whether you want to see only public banks, private banks, cooperatives, etc or mix the different dealers. Also they determine for the user which is the best seller and the best buyer, I think that is very relevant information, that with central bank list you will have to sit down and compare one by one. that's why I agree with Dblomgren when he says its a cool feature.

Another thing that I see in the External Links that you have inserted, its a redundant link. The one you have retitled "Official Exchange Rates of the Colón against other currencies" of the one I included its more than that, if you click on it to go to bccr and go to exchange rates "Exchange rate announced by the dealers" already takes you to the previous link you have put on external links

Arturo.rs 15:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

done, I removed the extra link. Daniel32708 22:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

also, all the "news" and "information" are in the spanish version of the site, not the english one (correct me if I am wrong), and this is the english wikipedia.Daniel32708 02:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

cambiodeldolar.com - A valid alternative source for exchange rates

First of all, "mediators" vs. sources? Guys, don't be ridiculous! Why do people use Yahoo Finance to get stock information instead of going directly to each individual stock exchange (nasdaq.com for instance) or use XE.com to get currency exchanges instead of going directly to each individual central bank or currency board? Because the sources are dispersed and not necessarily have the best tools for analyzing or explaining the raw data. The whole purpose of an encyclopedia is to compend and condense the abundance of information overflowing this planet in one place. However, although condensing is important and I agree with curbing repetition, if you, as the communicator, get caught up in official sources, you only get one side of the story so that's why you should always show alternatives. In this case, the alternative may show exactly the same information but that's besides the point - it's how you show it - user friendliness goes a long way on the Internet. Internet was born out of that need for a user friendly information democracy. In my book, Wikipedia is what best exemplifies that information-for-and-by-the-masses spirit. If official and established media is all you validate as worthy of mention and dissemination why bother with reading blogs - go to Reuters.com - or why bother with visiting an "unofficial" fansite. So, as long as you establish that two different sources are accurate, different and useful in their own right - why validate only the "official" one? I think this domineering attitude is counterproductive to what we are trying to achieve with the Wikipedia.

Second of all, "commercial" vs. not-for-profit websites? As much as the open source and free-for-all grassroots movements have gained in notoriety and supporters (yay Wikipedia!), most of the most visited and useful websites in the world are still commercial and make massive profits. I'm sure you still visit them anyway because they are providing you with a useful service. It's a struggle for smaller lesser known websites that provide a free value added service so if they have ads all over the place to make up for costs or put food on the table for their creators - so be it. I don't think this should be a factor Wikipedia contributors should use to discriminate. After all, not every website can feed off donations either.

Lastly, "advertising" vs. getting the word out? Daniel32708 said "obviously someone trying to advertise their site". Assuming it's an attempt to solely advertise as oposed to inform, why does advertising have a negative connotation anyway? Perhaps brazen spammers and savvy Internet cheaters have cast a shadow of distrust on all the thousands of legitimate relatively unknown sites out there that try very hard to get the word out about their site. What I think is if this site was utterly useless spam link more than one person would have something bad to say about it in the months it was linked to this page. So I suggest it's put back up with a note inviting visitors to comment in this discussion if they think it's useful or not. Let the people decide for themselves!!!

Smasis 17:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

ok, cambiodeldolar.com is now back... let's still keep the discussion to see what people think. I have to say however that if the purpose is to "Advertise" themselves, I would be totally against it since it goes against wikipedia's rules. Wikipedia doesn't do adds (not even charging) much less for free. Daniel32708 23:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Organization suggestions

1. The expansion tag should go on the article page, not the note page.
2. The section, "The Central Bank's coins (excluding commemorative coinage)" has quite a few redundancies. I prefer the bulleted points and I'll probably delete the redundant information in the first paragraph unless someone convinces me otherwise.
3. I've looked at the Spanish version and like it better. It's simpler and not so detailed. Can we simplify this article - something like:

• general information
• exchange rate (including history)
• current notes
• current coins
• descriptions and nicknames (Let's include the info about the spheres, the people on the notes, the buildings, etc. - much more interesting than a dry list about provision a, provision b, etc.)
• obsolete notes and coins

I think that would better serve the interests of readers, who I imagine are probably tourists planning to come to Costa Rica, salado students who have to do some dumb report on Costa Rica, and numismaticists.

P.S. This article is getting better and better! :) --DBlomgren 04:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I beleive the spanish version is just too simple. The advantage of having detailed information is that collectors can come in and get information; not just tourists who are just interested on general stuff. I would appreciate if people could scan their notes and upload them like the ones I have uploaded so far. This country has very beautiful notes and is by many considered one of the best countries to collect notes from. It is an excellent idea to include detailed information about the notes, however the list is also important for collectors and to give an idea of how many series have been made, etc. All your other ideas are also very good. The first paragraph on the coins I also beleive is redundant, however some information is not, since it doesn't appear on the list, like "The gold-colored 1-colón coin is officially in circulation because the Central Bank states so, but in reality it no longer circulates." so rephrasing that and including it on the list must be done. Daniel32708 04:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Regarding article organization, please take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style/Currency article. Of course, not all currencies are the same. There would bound to be sections that are applicable to CRC. For the colón, what about

• intro
• history (including ex rate history?)
• coins
  • obsolete coins
  • current coins
• banknotes
  • obsolete banknotes
  • current banknotes
• current exchange rate link
• interesting trivia

I'm proposing this so that all current articles can have a consistent look, just the individual country article. Currency articles are still much behind country articles in terms of consistency.

Both of you guys seem to be on top of CRC, have you considered joining in Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics? To join, just add your name at Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Participants. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the compliment Chochopk. I think I'll leave the numismastics to you and Daniel. I just happen to live in Costa Rica and love accuracy.

As for the organization, your idea is fine, but I'd prefer to follow the the Numismatics style page more closely, so I picked out these headings (I left a few out. My comments are in italics.):
Infobox we already have
Overview (intro) we have
Etymology included in intro; could probably skip since it's not lengthy
History -don't have but Spanish article does, so we could translate; also talk about minidevaluations if not already included
Current status - could include the exchange rate and banda system
Coins

• introductory information
• specification table this will be fun for Daniel to add his scanned-in pictures :)

Banknotes

• introductory information
• specification table - same as coin table

Current exchange rate links - we have
Trivia and nicknames - As for the people and things on the bills, we can wikilink them in the table, as they do in the banknotes section of the Nicaraguan córdoba article

Also we could create different tables for different series and give the status (current or obsolete) in the table.

What do you think? --DBlomgren 02:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

That sound like a good idea. Again, the style recommendation is just a guideline, not meant to impose strictly. I am a banknote collector and also love accuracy. That's probably I tag the "contradiction" tag from time to time =). Central and South America is my weak spot. I may not able to help as much on the content except for formatting and stuff. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I added the section "the bank of costa rica" along with images and info. Soon i will make "the banco anglo". If you people have banknotes from the Gobierno de Costa Rica, the national bank, the international bank, etc tell me, so we can upload them and make a detailed section. I also need images of the rare 50 and 100 colones notes from the Anglo, and if you happen to have pesos from that bank...Daniel32708 22:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

banco anglo...doneDaniel32708 02:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Looking excellent, Daniel! I don't have access to notes, but I know someone who collects Costa Rican coins. Do you need scanned images? DBlomgren 02:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanx! Any banknotes that don't appear there would be great, also images of commemorative coins and banknotes for the specialized article on those coins/notes. Daniel32708 04:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Peso or peso

Someone recently changed all "Peso" entries for "peso". I beleive "Peso" is a proper name, like "Colon". What do you people think? Daniel32708 04:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

C'est moi, of course. We don't capitalize dollar or other currencies, so I don't think we should capitalize peso. Sometimes people capitalize it because they're talking about the CURRENCY, not just money, and that's IMPORTANT. These people probably haven't taken an editing course like I have. Plus, it's not capitalized in the dictionary, so I rest my case.

P.S. By the way, it made sense to me to spell colón in English with an accent in order to help non-Spanish speakers pronounce it correctly. I didn't spell céntimo with an accent because the pronunciation is not a problem. However, I realize now there are two problems with this: 1. "Colón" is not the correct spelling according to the The American Heritage Dictionary. 2. Non-Spanish speakers are going to wonder why "colones" doesn't have an accent. I think the solution is to include the pronunciation (/ko 'lon/ or "koh LOHN") at the beginning of the article and then spell it without an accent. ("Centimo" without an accent is also a word in English.) If you'd like to make that change, more power to you. As for me, I'm going to bed. DBlomgren 05:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

per Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style, currency unit should be lower case. IMHO, I agree. The currency unit is just a unit, like kilogram, and not a proper name. The same guideline also states to use local form. Therefore, it would be colón and colones (correct me if I'm wrong. I don't speak Spanish), céntimo and céntimos. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Great link ChochoPK. I found two things that conflict though. According to Numismatics/Style:

1. "If the currency is listed at ISO 4217, use the name given there." The name given there is "colon" with no accent.
2. "If the currency name contains non-ASCII characters, use them (e.g., Polish złoty). Be sure to include a redirect from the ASCII version (e.g., Polish zloty)." In other words, we should use "colón."

The Numismatics Style talk page includes several comments that the ISO 4217 table has mistakes. Therefore, I'll take the easy route and stick with spelling it colón so I don't have to change it.

The page also says "Use local grammar for plural form (i.e., 1000 yen, not 1000 yens)." So we should use colones, not colons, although I think we should continue to explain that in English, colons is an acceptable plural. DBlomgren 23:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. The ISO 4217 naming is pretty much ignored in practice (on Wikipedia). And also agree on the second point you brought. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 00:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Series comparison

CRC is unlike many other currencies in Latin America. The design has not changed much for many decades. And the central bank uses a series naming theme where the letters are only meaningful within the same denomination (increment a letter every time something change for a single denomination, and start from A) In this case, I believe this table gives maximum information with minimal space

	₡2	₡5	₡10	₡20	₡50	₡100	₡500	₡1000	₡2000	₡5000	₡10000	Changes
83				Z 83	E87-88	F88-90	C87-89	C86-89
90					E91-93	G92		C90-94		A91-95		₡50 TDLR, ₡100CdM-Brazil
93						H93	D94	D97-03	A97(98)	B96(97)	A97(98)	₡100 printed by ABNC, ascending serial (except ₡100)
99										C99

How to read: E87-88 = Series E issued from 1987-1988, A97(98) = Series A printed in 1997, issued in 1998. This table is of course, incomplete and may be prone to error. Please let me know what you think. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 09:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I've been debating on whether or not to transpose the table. Here are my arguments

keep: The description of change could get long. This format will work well on the Federal Reserve Note of the USD because all changes usually apply on the whole series instead of individual note

transpose: When each row is a denomination, it gives a consistent style with the other table. Also, in most publication, timeline goes from left to right. This formatting will work great on "inflation table" where there are many denomination in a few series. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 09:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I like the transpose suggestion. It will make the table longer from top to bottom, but in the future it will be better as banknotes change because we would have plenty of space to add columns for dates. And where would the pictures go? --DBlomgren 01:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Picture can be a problem, transposed or not. Isn't there some denomination where the design completed changed at some point. Was it ₡100? By the way, if transposed, do you still wish to include "changes from series to series"? If it is included, it would be a row at the bottom, and the text would widen the table. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 02:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

All denominations have compeltely changed at some point (except the 5000 series) Daniel32708 02:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

Central Bank's Table

The Central Bank's Banknotes

Banknotes	2-colón	5-colón	10-colón	20-colón	50-colón	100-colón	500-colón	1000-colón	2000-colón	5000-colón	10000-colón
Provisional Series	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	---	---	---	---	---
Series A	---	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Series B	---	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	---	Yes	---
Series C	---	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	---	Yes	---
Series D	---	Yes	Yes	---	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	---	---	---
Series E	---	---	---	---	Yes	Yes	---	---	---	---	---
Series F	---	---	---	---	---	Yes	---	---	---	---	---
Series G	---	---	---	---	---	Yes	---	---	---	---	---
Series H	---	---	---	---	---	Yes	---	---	---	---	---
Series Z	---	---	---	Yes	---	---	---	---	---	---	---
	2-colón	5-colón	10-colón	20-colón	50-colón	100-colón	500-colón	1000-colón	2000-colón	5000-colón	10000-colón

I beleive this is a nice table that shows every note, maybe we can put it in the main page or make a dedicated page... anyways, i'd be nice if people can scan the missing banknotes and put them in the table. Also the empty boxes would probably look nice flled with lightgray. Any suggestions? Daniel32708 07:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

I believe the rows are better representing years, or some kind of chronological series. The "series" defined by the Central Bank is basically a serial letter on the individual denominations. I believe a grouping like the table in #Series comparison would be better. I see little reason to put Series A 5 colon in the same row with Series A 10000 colon. A new security feature might be applied to all the denominations at the same time, which will make a chronological table more sensible. And it would give a visual overview on the inflation as well. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Rearrangement

The above discussions seem to have petered out without coming to a conclusion. I've given the article a thorough tidy and but I've hopefully removed very little information. The one thing I have cut out is the exhaustive listing of banknote serial numbers. I would suggest that such details are better put in an exclusive banknote article, which could perhaps take up some of what else is here.
Dove1950 22:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Rarely used :1 colón

Rarely? Is much like: never used. The Central Bank still claims that it circulates, but in practice it doesn't. Never. As a matter of fact all prices are by default rounded... Using 1-colón coins (still with legal tender value) would be like using 5 10 25 50 cent coins, or the 2-colón coin, which still have legal tender value (you can take them to the central bank and have them exchanged) but no longer circulate. So, don't you people think that we should delete that? Daniel32708 22:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

For cash transaction, is everything priced at multiples of 5 colones? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

yes, everywhere. The cash registers no longer have a slot for the 1-colon coins Daniel32708Daniel32708

Then I don't see any problem, unless the 1 colon was was only recently deprecated or still included in mint set. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

In fact the last time a 1-colon coin was minted was in 1998 (and the size was reduced), And it didn't last too much in circulation, and have not been seen anymore for several years now. I will delete the entry from the article, since obviously is no longer accurate. Daniel32708 04:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

That darn colón sign

From the article:

The colón sign is not to be confused with the cent sign (¢)

I'd like to change this to:

Since the colón sign (similar to the cent sign but with two slashes) is not available on standard keyboards, the cent sign is usually substituted for it.

I mean, even La Nación, the national newspaper of Costa Rica, uses the cent sign. I don't see any reason why this article shouldn't use it as well, just as the Spanish version of this article does.

I'd also like to get rid of the Unicode code point information because it means nothing to me. Could someone show me how it's useful to know this? DBlomgren 02:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying. I have no problem with the revision. But it must be made clear that there are distinction. And from a technical point of view, there exists a distinct character for this. This may not be useful to everyone. But this is an encyclopedia, and it should contain knowledge. This article is the best place to provide the info about the 2-slash colon sign. The Spanish article has a large image of the sign. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)..

the "Since the colón sign (similar to the cent sign but with two slashes) is not available on standard keyboards, the cent sign is usually substituted for it. " is fine. However it must be made clear that the one with the 2 slashes is the correct one. The Unicode point info is needed in case you want to use the correct symbol (but doesn't necessarily have to be in the introduction)... and I agree with Chochopk, this is an encyclopedia, and it's purpose is to provide information. I also want to take the chance to say that the banknote series that I had put in before and were removed was not a good idea, because even if they were not useful to regular people, they were very useful for collectors, specially those from outside of Costa Rica and want to start a collection. The way banks organize their notes is very different from each other, so that was important. (the same reason: this is an encyclopedia, and let us remember that it is within the WikiProject Numismatics and is an article which is part of the Numismatics Portal)... Daniel32708 07:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

I disagree. I'm a designer from Costa Rica and didn't know that the colón has a unicode symbol until I read this Wikipedia entry. It is useful for collectors and web designers who sell in colones.

20- and 25-colon coins

Are they both commonly used, or is one uncommon, and if so, which? It would seem rather inconvenient to me to have two coins of very close value like that Nik42 20:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The 20-colon coin is still common but is being phased out by the BCCR. The 25-colon coin is common and is circulating. Daniel32708 23:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)Daniel32708

The 25 colones coin is much more used. The 20 coin is confused with the 500 coin because it is old in comparison; so the Central Bank of Costa Rica is planning to phase the 20 coin in favor of the 25 one.

Correct; it's also worth noting that while the 20 colones coin is still fairly common in circulation, it is no longer being minted. It is still considered legal tender though. Eventually BCCR plans to phase it out in favor of the 25 colones coin (which is still being minted). Whether they plan to do this actively or just by attrition remains to be seen. 132.194.83.60 (talk) 17:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Disputed?

This article is tagged as disputed. What's the problem so it can be fixed?
Dove1950 12:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Reorganization

I've actually added some info to this article. The character count has plummeted because I removed the tables whose images had already been deleted.
Dove1950 (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

SERIOUS IMAGE PROBLEM

Hello, many pictures of banknotes have been deleted, and others are about to be deleted. Could some one please help me fix this situation? Thanx --Daniel32708 (talk) 22:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

2000 banknote NIckname not true

I am a costa rican banknote collector living in costa rica, and no one calls the 2000 banknote "a shark", as the article indicates: "The 2,000 colones note has a picture of a shark, therefore is called "1 tiburón" (1 shark)." It is true that it has a shark, and by the way also a dolphin, but NO ONE calls it a "1 tiburon", therefore I am removing that line. I am also removing the The 10,000 colones note has yet to get a nick name. since nicknames are not something that is given or that has to be given by someone as this statement appears to indicate. In these case, this banknote might never get a nickname, it has been around for almost 10 years and there have been no signs of one nick comming soon. --Daniel32708 (talk) 22:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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In the past

• 8 Reales = 1 Peso
• 100 Centimos = 1 Colon
• 100 Centavos = 1 Peso Böri (talk) 12:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC)