Talk:Cowboy action shooting

Moved

(moved from article by --Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 03:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC))

The word CLASSES should be editted to be CATEGORIES.

Cowboy action shooters do not shoot in classes. But do shoot in various categories.
Much obliged,

Mustang Gregg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.79.14.15 (talk)

This is one of the many problems we have with one particular person continuing to suggest the Single Action Mounted Shooting merge. The sport of Cowboy Mounted Shooting has CLASSES and CAS has Categories and SAMS is a non-profit corporation where Cowboy Action Shooting is a generic term for a type of shooting sport. I'll go ahead and remove the merge tag. This has been discussed and argued to death in the SAMS article between someone who knows the sports and corporations, and someone who clearly does not know, nor care to know the differences. HowesR1 (talk) 15:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem is consensus is not to merge. And no personal attacks, please. The real problem is that the single action mounted shooting article is all about one single person's little club and probably needs to be deleted as advertising. But it's also not a fight I care to fight because the individual who Owns" the article viciously attacks anyone who attempts to help and refuses to listen to sound advice. Montanabw^(talk) 01:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

And NEVER EVER EVER remove other people's comments from talk pages. That's a violation of wikipedia guidelines/policy. I've not gone to admin over your behavior, Howes, but that one is a major no-no. I really don't want to report you, but be careful not to engage in blatent policy violations, please. Montanabw^(talk) 03:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Montanabw might be reminded of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_%22Ignore_all_rules%22_means and specifically: Following the rules is less important than using good judgment and being thoughtful and considerate, always bearing in mind that good judgment is not displayed only by those who agree with you. (See also Wikipedia:Civility.) It is perfectly reasonable and within the rules of Wikipedia to make edits that, if not made, would negatively affect the concept of an open encyclopedia. But I know that you will appreciate my letting you have the "last word" (if only they were truly the "last words"! LOL!). Please insert your "last word" here:__________________________________________

The articles goes into too much detail about the details of shooting events, and should instead give an overview. Also, there should be links to the various associations such as the SASS. RPTB1 15:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I thought the article was very informative. Keep the detail information.

restoration of comments

I've restored removed comments. It's important to know what happened before. Users who wish to repudiate their comments can strike them (using <s>strikeout markup</s>. ++Lar: t/c 14:54, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Images?

Kinda struck out on Flickr looking for images, but here's one image, freely licensed, that illustrates some of the equipment: [1] An action shot might be better than an equipment shot but it's something anyway. ++Lar: t/c 15:00, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

FYI: See those little jagged things sticking out the ends of the cylinders? They are expended Cowboy Mounted Shooting Blanks which are not used in the sport of Cowboy Action Shooting.

FYI....those little jagged things sticking out of the end of the cylinders are not blanks. They are 45 long colt defensive hollow point rounds. How do I know that? Because they are my guns...what the hell would I use blanks for? You stand corrected.

FYI: And since when are Hollow points used in Cowboy Action or Cowboy Mounted Shooting? Nice language you have there. Fits right in with the typical Wikipedia Social Network: rude and insulting as a smoke screen to hide a lack of knowledge on any subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.236.143.130 (talk) 17:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I never said I used them or participate in cowboy action shooting. You used the url to my image. I liked the guns and holster from circle kb so I bought them. You said they were expended blank rounds. Remove the reference to my image and we are done with this insulting social network —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.238.113.250 (talk) 19:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

How about if people just correct the article instead of talking about it? And how about if both of you anon IPs get user names so that you can more easily edit the article instead of sniping at each other?? Montanabw^(talk) 22:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thats good advice! Why not take some of it? The history here shows u r the expert about this subject so please help and stop griping! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.205.6.14 (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

On wikipedia, an editor who is an "expert" still needs to put in independently verifiable information and not their own original research. Here, I have never claimed expertise in the shooting sports, I am merely an experienced horse person who also does a fair amount of writing. Here, I once tried to offer help but was rudely rebuffed. In this case, I have little interest in this particular article other than to see it conform to basic wikipedia guidelines. With over 1000 articles on my watchlist, I choose to focus my editing attention elsewhere- where my good intentions are valued. Those who both care and are willing to learn & apply the guidelines of wikipedia really need to step up to the plate. Montanabw^(talk) 04:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I didn't get it before but now I see. By 'help' you mean you 'boss people around'! I found this definition of 'help' on the web: 6: to appropriate something for (oneself). No wonder why you are upset! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.154.176 (talk) 04:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I've added images from the Blue Mountain Trail CAS event in Sundsvall, Sweden. --17:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

single action?

it seems that double action revolvers are not allowed, but this is strange. the colt 1877, colt 1878, some merwin hulbert and company revolvers,and perhaps occurrences of a small few others in much smaller numbers,were present,used,and by some preferred in the old west.so why this rule?it perhaps does not make much,if any at all,because they are not made anymore,and few people would put an antique like these through being a standard gun for this.but still,....Keserman (talk) 22:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Double-action revolvers may have been available at the time, but the typical handgun of the era was a single-action revolver. Using what was typical for the time is what CAS is all about. Jersey emt (talk) 01:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Single Action Definition

You need to put the definition of the hammer cock right at the front. No reason a person should have to dig through this to find it. It is what the article is about; Define it immediately. Msjayhawk (talk) 04:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Nothing stopping you from doing it yourself. Immediately! Montanabw^(talk) 18:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 17 April 2015

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The result of the move request was: Moved as requested - article cleanup required to downcase all non-proper noun references to this type of shooting. Mike Cline (talk) 13:56, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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Cowboy Action Shooting → Cowboy action shooting – WP:TITLEFORMAT says, "Use lowercase, except for proper names," and a PREPONDERANCE of sources use lowercase for this term in running text. Lightbreather (talk) 00:00, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Examples of newspapers that use it sentence case:

1. http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/11/nyregion/colt-s-to-curtail-sale-of-handguns.html
2. http://articles.latimes.com/2001/apr/26/entertainment/ca-55723
3. http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Schedule-of-Events-1558035.php
4. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-15/travel/ct-trav-0916-senior-games-20120915_1_senior-games-male-athletes-track-and-field
5. http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2014/12/21/shooters-public-land/20646943/
6. http://findnsave.kansascity.com/offer/Ruger-Vaquero-SASS-Handgun-Set/37552491/
7. http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-gun-clubs-land-run-is-an-action-packed-thriller/article/3786170
8. http://trib.com/lifestyles/recreation/fantasy-gunfighters-square-off-in-cowboy-action-shooting-matches/article_4557bade-a2bd-52ce-b226-bc360b9e841f.html
9. http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/bang-clang-or-bang-dang-wild-west-fans-get-into/article_c0086603-6492-5370-a066-1bfd2e8e7821.html
10. http://old.seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2008764814_abrahamprofile22.html
11. http://www.pennlive.com/perry-county-times/index.ssf/2005/06/youngsters_have_a_field_day.html
12. http://www.richmond.com/news/local/hanover/mechanicsville-local/article_2d14ff00-2541-11e3-940e-0019bb30f31a.html
13. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203513204576047843270055436

--Lightbreather (talk) 00:21, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Support with reservations: The article mostly deals with "Cowboy Action Shooting™", which is a specific type of cowboy action shooting event organized by SASS. It also appears to be the most prominent of the "cowboy" shooting sports. However, it also touches on other "leagues" such as WASA and NCOWS. A move will need to distinguish between generic cowboy-style shooting and the specific SASS event. What about "Cowboy action shooting sports" or "Cowboy action shooting competition" as an alternative title? Faceless Enemy (talk) 03:09, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Support - SASS used to own the trademark on Cowboy Action Shooting, but my understanding was that they realized that it was better off in the public domain and they abandoned the trademark, see here[2]. Since it is no longer protected and is simply a phrase to describe the activity, we should just move it. Protracted discussion really isn't needed. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:10, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

BTW, the Western Action Shootists Association (WASA) has gone defunct. I still have my badge, but it just never got traction or much of a membership base. The National Congress of Old West Shootists (NCOWS) is still going, but its nothing like the Single Action Shooting Society (SASS). SASS is well over the 100,000 membership mark (wow, that's a lot of aliases) in something like 17 countries if I remember correctly including Australia. It should get its own article. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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