Talk:Crataegus pinnatifida

Fruit or fruits

In general, the non-count form "fruit" is preferable in English for non-technical and botanical uses and therefore seems best to me for an article such as this.

Wiktionary says [[1]]:

• In the botanical and figurative senses, fruit is usually treated as uncountable:

  a bowl of fruit; eat plenty of fruit; the tree provides fruit.

• Fruits is also sometimes used as the plural in the botanical sense:

  berries, achenes, and nuts are all fruits; the fruits of this plant split into two parts.

• When fruit is treated as uncountable in the botanical sense, a piece of fruit is often used as a singulative.
• In senses other than the botanical or figurative ones derived from the botanical sense, the plural is fruits.

Here are citations giving different possibilities: Fruit as non-count:

• [[2]] FRUIT: bright red, about 1/4" diameter
• [[3]] In habit, this fruit tree is very much like the American thorn-apple or hawthorn, but the fruit is much larger, being 1 to 1 1/4 inches in diameter. It is semitart and makes delicious sauce and preserves.
• [[4]] The orange fruit has a mealy texture with an acid taste and a slight bitterness, but is fairly nice raw[K]...The fruit is about 15mm in diameter[200], though in some forms it can be 25mm in diameter[266].

Fruit as singular/plural:

• [[5]] These cultivars have been grown in China for many years specifically for their red edible fruits which are the size of small crab apples. The leaves turn bright red in autumn.The fruits can be made into syrups, preserves, or candied.
• [[6]] Usually its fruit is bright red, somewhat hard, and normally pleasantly sour in taste, though it differs from variety to another in acidity as well as size. Fruits of the best varieties...
• [[7]] Is a slow grower, but has large, glossy, dark green leaves, and is loaded in fall with scarlet fruits.

Both:

• [[8]] Hawthorn fruits are dipped in boiling sugar water to make a candied snack...Standardized extracts have been offered commercially, with only 2% hyperosides in leaf extract and 2-4% vitexins in fruit extract (the dried fruit is about 1% vitexins).

Fruit as a plural

• [[9]] Fruit are 12-18 mm in diameter, varying from obovate and pear-shaped to spherical, glossy scarlet with white blotches; flesh is firm, pink...Fruit have pleasing though sour taste. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wakablogger2 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

The new version works. Nadiatalent (talk) 03:20, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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