Talk:Creative writing/Archives/2016
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The article states:
"The lack of specificity of the term is partly intentional, designed to make the process of writing accessible to everyone (of all ages) and to ensure that non-traditional, or traditionally low-status writing (for example, writing by marginalized social groups, experimental writing, genre fiction) is not excluded from academic consideration or dismissed as trivial or insignificant."
The phrase, "partly intentional, designed to make the process accesible . . ." leads the reader to think that some individual or team of thinkers invented the title "creative writing" with specific political intentions in mind, to ensure that forms x, y, and z would be included, and that forms a, b, and c would be excluded. No such spontaneous invention or creation occurred. The title "creative writing" developed and evolved gradually, like most distinctions. To claim that this title was "designed" so that the form would be accessible to all people, young and old and man and woman, etc., is simply bogus and demonstrates an author's point-of-view.
The paragraph following the above passage, beginning with "Despite this inclusively" and ending with "a close friend said to you" should be deleted. First, "inclusively" is not a word. I think the author might be looking for something along the lines of "inclusivity," but as far as I can tell, "inclusivity" is not a word either. We have "exclusivity" for some reason. I don't know why it doesn't work the same for "inclusive."
Second, phrases such as "hard to figure out" and "most obvious" and "doesn't need to have" are POV. And the list of examples of when a shopping list goes too far and becomes creative is interesting, and nicely written, but simply out-of-place in an encyclopedia article, unnecessary and distracting.
I've been reading Wikipedia for a while, but I'm new to editing. I'm not going to directly edit the article at this point, but I wanted to make some comments for others to consider. I'm still learning how all this stuff works.
- Read the part of Wikipedia that says be bold You're not destroying anything by editing, and everyone makes mistakes, so have at it. You're right about the article's phrasing, it's in need of a good cleanup. - IstvanWolf 06:56, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks IstvanWolf! I just got an account also. I'm a little nervous about editing, too. I thought this page may be a good start... what do you think? --EmeraldQuill (talk) 23:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Forms of creative writing
This section contains many links to articles describing various "forms of writing," rather than articles about creative writing. I think that either the section title should be changed to something like "Forms of literature" or the links to articles about creative writing should be moved to the "See also" section and this section removed. — Anita5192 (talk) 18:38, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
I agree with this. Maybe some of these should be either deleted, or moved to Wikipedia's Writing page. An Autobiography/Memoir isn't creative writing, it's nonfiction. Some parts of this page should be rethought. --EmeraldQuill (talk) 23:41, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Dangling Quote
I'm moving this quote here because I found it dangling, without any explanation, in the main page.
“ | Somewhere in the educational scheme there must be encouragement for the dreams and imaginings of youth. The student must be permitted emotional expression in order that he may be taught to discipline his emotions. His shy fancies must be drawn out of him for the good of his soul.[1] | ” |
Creative Writing: There's that life story you hear knowing how it goes saying, you know, yeah I heard it all, before you're not asking yourself "how does it go". There's always something you know you can't just pretend you have those certain thoughts of another. Sometimes you wish nothing is important expecting your life to combine with love, not joy to prosper in joy you'll regret hating the new you acting as if you cared. No need to be that way there's nothing you hate more then love having to care for another, for God only knows how long. Don't say I'm your friend, don't pretend you have to be like me or to say I'm not the same person I was however many years ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.174.147 (talk) 02:59, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
I do not see how this relates to creative writing, nor why there are so many spelling mistakes. By the way, I fixed them. --EmeraldQuill (talk) 23:52, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ Johnson, Burges and Syracuse University. "Creative Writing"; Inferences Drawn from an Inquiry Now being Carried on at Syracuse University Under the Direction of Burges Johnson, Litt.D., and Helene Hartley, Ph.D., into the Effectiveness of the Teaching of Written Composition in American Colleges. (Syracuse: Syracuse university, 1934), 7.