Talk:Crime Survey for England and Wales

Removal of a section called "Factors affecting the reporting and recording of criminal statistics"

Pending rewrite and sourcing, I'm removing an entire section called "Factors affecting the reporting and recording of criminal statistics":

Factors affecting the reporting and recording of criminal statistics:

• The public reporting of crime as less than 10% of crime is directly observed or uncovered by the police. The British Crime Survey found that people do not report crime which they define as too petty.
• The police play a crucial role in deciding which complaints by the public should be categorised as crime and the acts that should be defined as legal. If the police decide a crime is not a crime or is to trivial to be considered a crime it goes uninvestigated.
• The Media - From a marxist point of view the media has an applifying nature through television reports.

This seems to be an expression of opinion, or perhaps multiple opinions. That is okay if we can incorporate it, sourced correctly, into a balanced, neutral treatment of the subject, but the above section isn't it. --Tony Sidaway 21:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

@Tony Sidaway: I think your edit removing this text is too bold and should be reverted, or at least discussed. A better approach, now, would be to add citation needed cleanup tags for each point that is uncited. While these might be matters of opinion, they are also findings of the British Crime Survey, itself. I think the point about police recording of crime is well made, and not really an opinion, but an accepted fact by researchers and is also known as the dark figure of crime. The point about the media is also known phenomenon, and I wonder if the issue is a suggestion it has political origins. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Removal of a section called "Criticism on BCS"

Pending rewrite and sourcing, I'm removing an entire section called "Criticism on BCS":

Criticism on BCS The most commonly addressed problem of BCS is Exclusion. It has been claimed that BCS undercounts certain types of crime especially fraud and corporate crime. The BCS seemed to give the impression that all individuals shared similar risks of being victims of crime. The BCS suggested that victims of crime were most likely to be male and young.

This needs to be sourced. --Tony Sidaway 21:16, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I note the section about criticism has been reinstated by others. However the above wording seems to be a better expression of the basic problem. The survey is primarily focused on counting victims of crime, rather than measuring the criminal offences those victims experience. Not all criminal offences are created equal and some offences are more harmful than others. Perhaps the issue is a result of measuring crime using different dimensions that are incompatible. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 02:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Waste of Taxpayer's Money ?

As the actual surveys do not address the number of 'crimes' which are given only'incident' status, they are obviously no more than propaganda exercises - you should ask how much these futile surveys cost the Tax Payer.212.139.108.215 (talk) 10:56, 14 July 2011 (UTC)twl212.139.108.215 (talk) 10:56, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

If one accepts that the role of the police is to prevent crime and the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder then how does one measure this other than by directly asking citizens if they have been victims of crime? How else does one measure unreported crime or crime that police decide to not count in their statistics? How does one hold the police accountable for their activities if one knows the crime statistics are an incomplete picture of crime? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Cameron Dewe (talk) 02:39, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2022 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.169.156 (talk) 22:32, 3 February 2023 (UTC)