Talk:Crown Building (Manhattan)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Sohom Datta talk 06:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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The Crown Building

• ... that the first home of the Museum of Modern Art was six rooms in New York City's Crown Building? Source: "New Modern Art Museum Opens Exhibit Today: First Showing of Paintings in Heckscher Building Galleries L. by Invitation Admit Public Tomorrow Patrons Lend Works by Cezanne Gauguin. Seurat". New York Herald Tribune. November 7, 1929. p. 48; Rothman, Lily (November 7, 2014). "The Museum of Modern Art, Then and Now". TIME.
  • ALT1: ... that Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos bought New York City's Crown Building because of a tearful plea? Source: Moses, Paul (April 10, 1990). "Banker: Imelda's Tears Did Trick". Newsday. p. 17
  • ALT2: ... that after New York City's Crown Building was sold for tens of millions of US dollars, the Philippine government received about US$3,000? Source: "New York Crown Building Auctioned at $93.6 Million". The Wall Street Journal. February 11, 1991. p. B5A; "NY taxmen go after a third Philippine bldg". Filipino Reporter. March 24, 1994. p. 1.
  • ALT3: ... that New York City's Crown Building was the world's costliest office building per square foot when it was sold for US$1.75 billion in 2015? Source: Clarke, Katherine (May 15, 2015). "He's a Big Deal Again an Empire's in Play as Spitzer Calls the Shots". New York Daily News. p. 1.
  • ALT4: ... that a building once owned by a Philippine dictator is now a luxury hotel? Source: Moses, Paul (April 10, 1990). "Banker: Imelda's Tears Did Trick". Newsday. p. 17; Wrathall, Claire (August 25, 2022). "Inside New York's newest — and most expensive — hotel". Financial Times.
  • ALT5: ... that a former home of the Museum of Modern Art is now a luxury hotel? Source: Rothman, Lily (November 7, 2014). "The Museum of Modern Art, Then and Now". TIME; Wrathall, Claire (August 25, 2022). "Inside New York's newest — and most expensive — hotel". Financial Times.
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5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 660 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC).

• 5x expansion confirmed by DYK check tool. Article is appropriately sourced, no issues with CV, neutrality, etc. Hook suggestions are all in the article and appropriately cited to reliable sources. I'm partial to ALT1 or ALT4, but promoter is free to pick any of the hooks, they're all decent. Photo is free, used in the article, and looks good at a small size. QPQ completed. No issues, looks good to me. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 20:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: 750h+ (talk · contribs) 10:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Will review @Epicgenius:. Always nice to review these. 750h+ 10:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

prose

lead

• building at 730 Fifth Avenue, on the southwest corner with 57th Street probably should change "with" to "of"
  • I went with "the southwest corner of Fifth Avenue and 57th Street", though that might be a little repetitive. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• while the upper levels were converted to the luxury Aman i'd recommend changing to "while the upper levels became the luxury Aman"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• The structure is a New York City designated landmark since 2024. ==> "The structure has been a New York City-designated landmark since 2024."
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• The building's stepped, setback design was remove the comma
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• and four-story octagonal pyramidal roof ==> "and a four-story octagonal pyramidal roof"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• Link facade
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• in 1964 and sold yet again remove "yet"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• Link OKO Group
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

site

• townhouses at 10 and 12 West 56th Street are on the block to the south remove "to the"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• Prior to the Crown Building's Replace "Prior to" with "Before"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

architecture

• The Crown Building was designed by Charles D. Wetmore of Warren and Wetmore and was completed in 1921 i'd remove the second "was"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• By 2021, the annex on 56th Street had been replaced with a glass structure. ==> "In 2021, the annex on 56th Street was replaced with a glass structure."
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• Link first instance of facade
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• At ground level, the northern facade along 57th Street measures 162 feet (49 m) across and is divided vertically into 18 bays, while the eastern facade on Fifth Avenue is 100 feet (30 m) across and is divided into 11 bays. I'd split this into two sentences
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• except on the 21st story and on its western portion. remove the second "on"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• The gilded spandrel panels above the 22nd story are similar to the spandrel panels used ==> "The gilded spandrel panels above the 22nd story resemble those used"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• story rises a octagonal ==> "story rises an octagonal"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• had bluestone floors, carved-limestone walls remove the hyphen
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• Other amenity spaces in the hotel include a sky lobby, wine library, and piano bar.[41][72] In addition, the hotel includes a private club called Aman Club.[75][74] I'd recommend changing one of the "include"(s) to "feature"(s)
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

history

• that his secret purchase had been announced publicly, since he had wanted to give the remove the comma
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• Heckscher bought James Roosevelt's residence at 3 West 57th Street, and two other houses at 3–5 West 56th Street, in late 1913. remove the commas
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• There would also have been an enclosed shopping arcade leading from 57th Street and from Fifth Avenue. remove the second "from"
  • I reworded it to remove the repeated "from" and clarified that these are still two separate entrances. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• largest real-estate loans ever placed on ==> "largest real-estate loans ever put on"
  • Usually, in the US we say that we place a loan on a property, rather than put a loan. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• The structure was ultimately finished in 1922. remove "ultimately"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• Women's Wear wrote that the building's completion coincided with the increasing concentration of businesses along 57th Street, while the New York Herald Tribune wrote that its construction accelerated the street's commercial redevelopment. I'd replace the second "the street's" with "its"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• At the time, the structure was earning $700,000 in rent per year and was valued at $4.875 million for tax purposes. I'd split the sentence into "At the time, the structure was earning $700,000 in rent per year. It was valued at $4.875 million for tax purposes."
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• The building was renamed the Genesco Building in 1964, when Genesco became a major tenant. remove the comma
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• The real buyer was Imelda Marcos, the wife of i don't think "real" is necessary, or you could substitute it for something better sounding
  • I have reworded this. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• Shoe companies opened showrooms within the building, and retail space was being rented for about $500 per square foot ($5,400/m2) by the late 1980s, making it among the world's most expensive retail space. ==> "Shoe companies opened showrooms within the building. Retail space was being rented for about $500 per square foot ($5,400/m2) by the late 1980s, making it among the world's most expensive retail space."
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• all racketeering charges in relation to the properties ==> "all racketeering charges relating to the properties"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• program where condos' owners could remove the apostrophe
  • I changed it to "condo owners". Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

reception

• building as a "lovely slight from all the southern part of Central Park", particularly its comma should be within the quotation marks
  • Because the quote isn't a complete sentence or clause, MOS:LQ recommends that the comma be placed outside the quotation marks. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
• Another critic, for the Condé Nast Traveler, described going through the hotel as akin to ==> "A critic for the Condé Nast Traveler described going through the hotel as akin to"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

source review

• Source quality seems okay; most sources look like newspapers, reliable magazines or official government websites. Are REBusinessOnline and the The Real Deal reliable? 750h+ 05:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Epicgenius: just in case you didn’t see this 750h+ 16:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

  I'd say they are reliable. Both of these are print magazines with editorial teams. Epicgenius (talk) 17:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

  All right. I still have some prose points above before I pass the article for GA. 750h+ 17:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the review. I think I've addressed all the prose comments you brought up. Epicgenius (talk) 17:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

spot check

I'll do five sources. 750h+ 07:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

• Footnote 187, which I've been able to access via ProQuest, supports 3 parts of the text. The Bernsteins alleged that they paid $235 million for the Crown Building, Herald Center, and 40 Wall Street is supported. he asserted that he had owned the building for several years before the Bernsteins' alleged purchase. is also supported. The Aquino administration attempted in early 1989 to sell the four Marcos properties to Morris Bailey for $398 million, over the objections of the Bernsteins and Khashoggi. is supported too. Y
• Footnote 92, a book which i've been able to access via archive.org, supports 1 part of the text Y
• Footnote 247 and 248 support the text. Y
• Footnote 138, accessed via ProQuest, supports the text Y
• Footnote 66 and 67 support the text. Y

Spot check pass. 750h+ 08:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

plagiarism

• Plagiarism check is fine, with an unlikely similarity figure of 18.0% to an NYC Media source. Pass. 750h+ 08:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

image review

• File:Crown Building New York.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
• File:Frederick W. Stevens House.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
• File:5 Av Apr 2024 07.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
• File:Crown Building 2 (4674795529).jpg - CC BY 2.0
• File:Bird's eye view of Heckscher Bldg. LCCN2004673286.jpg - Public Domain
• File:5 Av Apr 2024 16.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
• File:5 Av Apr 2024 31.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
• File:5 Av Apr 2024 98.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
• File:Über allem weht stets das Sternenbanner... - panoramio.jpg - CC BY 3.0
• File:Roof of the Crown Building (4688621274).jpg - CC BY 2.0

Passing image review. 750h+ 08:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:GAN/I#R4, and leave the {{GA nominee}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. 750h+ 17:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.