Talk:Empress Masako

name

per Wiki convention re current royal spouses and wives of heirs apparent of various country (see Mary, Crown Princess of Denmark, et cetera Mowens35 22:45, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think the article should be renamed Masako, Crown Princess of Japan, and Princess Masako should redirect to it. In fact, Princess Masako is not accurately correct. at33

I think the article should be renamed Crown Princess Masako. Since Japan is not a European country it does not make sense to specify country when all Japanese royalty names are unique to their own country. E.g. Emperor Jimmu used to be named Emperor Jimmu of Japan until people realized that this was moronic. —Tokek 19:02, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

The current article seems to have a contradiction in the beginning, as to what Masako should be called. I don't know much about the facts, so it's not my place to correct it, but there should be some conclusion there. Galactiger 20:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Harvard

Harvard University confers an "AB" Artium Baccalaureus degree, not a "BA" Purplemouse 13:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

HIH Crown Princess Masako

According to the official website of the Japanese monarchy - the Imperial Household Agency webpage, she is called Crown Princess Masako http://www.kunaicho.go.jp/e03/ed03-03.html

The sentence about masako not being croun princess should definitely be removed, as the offcial website use the name

80.219.120.87 15:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Borderline personality disorder & mistreatment??????

She is most famous for giving up her professional career to become a princess, and for struggling with Borderline Personality Disorder while trying to cope with her world-class image as the picture-perfect princess whose primary duty is to bear a male heir to the throne.

observers have indicated that the Crown Princess suffered a nervous breakdown. It was announced that the Crown Princess suffered from borderline personality disorder and chicken pox.

How do we know whether or not she has Borderline personality disorder? Isn't it irresponsible to label it as such? Announced by WHO? Isn't this mere speculation? It wasn't chicken pox she was suffering from it was shingles.

mistreatment she received from both the Emperor Akihito and his commoner empress, Michiko

What mistreatment? From what I have read the Imperial Household Agency has done more to mistreat Masako than the Emperor and Empress. The Empress has publicly offered Masako her support and compassion.

And you believe it, lmao? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.150.167 (talk) 05:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Changed controversy section

So that it does not seem to imply agreement with a specific perspective (namely, that article subject implicitly abrogated rights in consenting to marry). Hopefully now it organizes the controversy from a third-party perspective: contrasting the opinions of the foreign press/observers with the prevailing opinion of the domestic press/observers.

Marriage

I removed a large section from the marriage section of the article [1]. It was obviously lifted and edited from the Diana, Princess of Wales article. Unless this can be checked from a CREDIBLE source, it should not be in the article. This is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid magazine. Prsgoddess187 12:25, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

i put this text back. the current article says (or said) NOTHING about her divorce; in fact, it says nothing at all about any controversy. i read somewhere about masako being "disgraced" and came to wikipedia looking for info and found nothing. questions about the origin of citations should result in a ‹The template Talkfact is being considered for merging.›  notice being added, NOT total deletion of information. Benwing 04:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I zapped that unproven stuff. This is a fine example of information trolling. Your creation e.g. gave a specific date of separation, but it was not possible to confirm this from other sources. And the part about Aiko being 2nd in progression is obviously false. I agree with Prsgoddess187 that you had too much Diana. --Marc van Woerkom 21:41, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Hm, I just checked your user profile and I did not find a troll but rather one of the guys I have high respect for (assuming you are the Xemacs dev). I am quite surprised. Please honor the academic code of proving stronger claims by giving citations. --Marc van Woerkom 21:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

The Picture

The picture is quite old and I don't think it belongs to the header part of the page as the princess is 43 years old and this picture is from thirty some odd years ago. If need be, It can be used in the Early Life section.

Can anybody provide a better picture? I have sepent a lot of time to really understand the copyrights issues and how I can comply, but often the pages that have good pix, are not very clear about their copyright issues.

"of Japan" in the article title

Since the sole purpose for adding a country name in the article title has always been for disambiguation purposes only, the article title ("Masako, Crown Princess of Japan") shouldn't include "of Japan" as that doesn't disambiguate the article from any other Masakos. To date, Japan is the only country that has had a royalty named "Masako." More broadly speaking, no country besides Japan has had a royalty whose name is Japanese. I could not find any official wikipedia policy or style guideline, or actual practices in Japan that would require the "of Japan" to be included. —Tokek (talk) 09:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Date issue

"On July 11, 2008, Naruhito sought public understanding for his ailing wife. He was on an eight-day trip to Spain without her, attending the wedding of the Prince of the Asturias:[19] "I would like the public to understand that Masako is continuing to make her utmost efforts with the help of those around her. Please continue to watch over her kindly and over the long term." " However, the wedding of the Prince of the Asturias was in May 2004. So the date is wrong. I propose to delete the date in the sentence --90.15.124.102 (talk) 14:55, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested Move

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The result of the move request was page moved. —harej (T) 06:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

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Masako, Crown Princess of Japan → Crown Princess Masako —The title of an article should be the way the person or thing is normally referred to on first reference in an English-language newspaper, which in this case is "Crown Princess Masako."[2] "of [country]" is a wiki style to disambiguate the names of European kings. There is no need to do this for Japanese names as they are distinctive to Japan. Dead tree encyclopedias put the given name first so names can be alphabetized, but that is not an issue on Wikipedia. Notice that it is Pope John Paul II. Kauffner (talk) 13:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

• Oppose it should include Japan however it is ordered. 76.66.193.221 (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

• Support based on a rather cursory examination of the case. There doesn't seem to be a fixed standard for article titles Japanese royalty but none save one use "Japan" in the title. See Category:Japanese princesses and Category:Japanese princes for examples. The important exception is Naruhito, Crown Prince of Japan. Based on this nomination, would a move of that article to Crown Prince Naruhito be warranted? — AjaxSmack 16:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

  I agree, and I think that discussing a move of Naruhito, Crown Prince of Japan → Crown Prince Naruhito is certainly worth starting.
  — V = I * R (talk) 00:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

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Kotaishi Hidenka?

Wasn't her title in Japanese Kotaishi Hidenka? This should be mentioned in the article. Gryffindor (talk) 12:12, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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Premature page move & edits

Naruhito hasn't ascended the imperial throne yet. So, Masako is still crown princess, until then. GoodDay (talk) 10:12, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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Languages

The article mentions her studying her fourth and fifth languages, French and German, without previously indicating what the first three were (presumably Japanese, English, and perhaps Russian from preschool).Bill (talk) 22:21, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Education

No details are given of her Oxford education. Undrr the Balliol article she is mentioned as as alumna. Esedowns (talk) 12:25, 28 December 2022 (UTC)