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Merge proposal

I propose merging Croydon South (historic UK Parliament constituency) into Croydon Central (UK Parliament constituency). The pre-1974 Croydon South seat was extremely similar to the subsequent Croydon Central seat (with minor adjustments for Ward Boundaries), provides important historical context for results in Croydon Central and better conforms with naming conventions for parliamentary constituencies with regards to Croydon South (historic) and a merge would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in Croydon Central (UK Parliament Constituency).Trimfrim20 (talk) 16:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

• Another similar example of this is Mid Kent (UK Parliament constituency) and Mid Kent (historic UK Parliament constituency). Moondragon21 (talk) 05:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the reply - I think the circumstances are slightly different on this one?

  There's a gap of more than 100 years between the two seats you describe - while Croydon South (as was) was renamed Croydon Central and subject to minor boundary changes in 1974 to line it up with new ward boundaries.

  The old East Surrey was then renamed Croydon South in the same go. Trimfrim20 (talk) 11:06, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  Hi. I agree with your proposal. The separate Croydon South (historic UK Parliament constituency) always seemed like an anomaly to me, so your suggestion makes sense.

  Regarding the Mid Kent example raised by @Moondragon21, there are other similar situations where separate articles have not been created, including Mid Cheshire and North Northumberland re-established for the 2024 election. We should be consistent and, in these cases, I believe we should have separate "historic" articles. JSboundaryman (talk) 09:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

No, it should be merged with Croydon South (UK Parliament constituency). Standard practice on Wikipedia is for constituencies of the same name to have the same article regardless of how much the boundaries change; it avoids confusion. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 11:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)