Talk:Cruis'n (video game)
Latest comment: 8 months ago by Oknazevad in topic Article title
 | The Fast and the Furious (2004 video game) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 14 February 2024 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Cruis'n (video game). The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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editIf you need a picture, here it is. -- Dvorsky 22:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
And here is the boxart. -- Dvorsky 15:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
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editOk, now that the merger has been carried out, let's chat about the title of this article. I still believe that the game is more recognizable to the general public under the F&F name, because the arcade cabinet was a fairly ubiquitous top-selling machine, while the Wii port was hardly a chart topper. Hard data is, however, tough to come by, as the gaming press no longer routinely publishes such info outside of maybe a top-ten overall each month. That I'm still hunting for. oknazevad (talk) 04:48, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Cool. When you find the evidence, please share. Until then, there's nothing to do here. TarkusABtalk/contrib 18:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Like I said in the AFD, if consensus is that the Fast and Furious version isn't even independently notable, but the Cruis'n version is, I can't see a policy-based scenario where F+F is the WP:COMMONNAME. Sergecross73 msg me 20:26, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Neither is independently notable from the other, in either direction. There is agreement that it's the same game regardless of title of the game or the article, so notability is shared. Notability isn't the issue. Determining which is the better known and more recognizable name is. That is most likely best determined by looking at sales figures, to see which is the more frequently seen version of the game, but the one trade publication that tracks arcade sales figures in the US, RePlay magazine, is notorious for being difficult to find back issue archives (the publisher doesn't offer an online archive of their own, and has pulled their party ones). So I'm going to have to head to a library. oknazevad (talk) 14:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely agreed that you need evidence/more info to create a persuasive argument, though I'm not really sure you're on the right track here...
- Semi-related note - is there a reason you're so stuck on this point? If we've got the Fast and Furiois title redirecting to it, and have the whole situation explained in the lead, with both names bolded...does it really matter? Sergecross73 msg me 18:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Not really, just my sense that it'd be more recognizable to a casual reader who is more likely to have run into the arcade game at Dave & Busters, Chuck E. Cheese, or a local movie theatre or bowling alley than seen the Wii version. And that the original version should be treated as primary, as is the case for pretty much all arcade games with home ports. Not a major issue since the merger did expand this article to more fully cover the arcade version. oknazevad (talk) 19:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Neither is independently notable from the other, in either direction. There is agreement that it's the same game regardless of title of the game or the article, so notability is shared. Notability isn't the issue. Determining which is the better known and more recognizable name is. That is most likely best determined by looking at sales figures, to see which is the more frequently seen version of the game, but the one trade publication that tracks arcade sales figures in the US, RePlay magazine, is notorious for being difficult to find back issue archives (the publisher doesn't offer an online archive of their own, and has pulled their party ones). So I'm going to have to head to a library. oknazevad (talk) 14:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC)