Talk:Crying

culture

I have removed:

In many cultures, it is more socially acceptable for women and children to cry, and less socially acceptable for men to cry.

from the lead where it was strangely standing all alone. This could be expanded upon in the body of the article, but as it was it seemed quite unbalanced. μηδείς (talk) 19:58, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

define "cry"?

The article unfortunately uses the same word crying for both weeping (tears) and wailing (vocalizing). I hesitate to make sweeping changes … —Tamfang (talk) 04:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Opening the article with "Crying (also called sobbing, weeping, wailing, whimpering, bawling, or blubbering)" seems a little odd, also, implying that they are synonyms when the bracketed list actually describes other behaviours which involve crying. --McGeddon (talk) 20:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

I can say that you or let me say me , i cry when someone broke my heart or when i'm a......😂😂😂😂😂😢 Lepanta (talk) 10:40, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Typographic correction for reference 20

I think reference 20 is incorrectly formatted and links to non-existing URL.

Ref. 20 is

<ref>Philip Sanford Zeskind; Laura Klein; Timothy R. Marshal, [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=Articl<ref>Insert footnote text here</ref>eURL&_udi=B6WYC-46V0CJ8-20&_user=10&_coverDate=11/30/1992&_rdoc=18&_fmt=high&_orig=browse&_origin=browse&_zone=rslt_list_item&_srch=doc-info(%23toc%237183%231992%23999719993%23343388%23FLP%23display%23Volume)&_cdi=7183&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_ct=22&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=78f0bb61eec9ecd5e4da7555b5fc0ab6&searchtype=a Adults' Perceptions of Experimental Modifications of Durations of Pauses and Expiratory Sounds in Infant Crying] in Developmental Psychology (journal)|''Developmental Psychology'' Vol. 28, Issue 6. (November 1992), pp. 1153–62, [[ISSN]] 0012-1649.</ref>

but should be:

<ref>{{cite journal|last=Zeskind|first=P. S.|coauthors=Klein, L., Marshall, T. R.|title=Adults' perceptions of experimental modifications of durations of pauses and expiratory sounds in infant crying|journal=Developmental Psychology|year=1992|month=Nov|volume=28|issue=6|pages=1153-1162|doi=10.1037/0012-1649.28.6.1153|url=http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1993-09591-001|accessdate=5 November 2013}}</ref>

That is, the reference should not link to sciencedirect but to apa.org and the formatting is not entirely correct around the journal title.

Lappie75 (talk) 13:40, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks very much. --Stfg (talk) 14:37, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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'Physics of crying' tab empty

In my opinion, the 'Physics of crying' tab should be removed as it is empty and in my opinion it is pointless to have an empty section within the article. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 18:54, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

charges?

I do not understand what is the meaning of 'charges' in this sentence: "Charles Darwin wrote in The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals that the keepers of Indian elephants in the London Zoo told him that their charges shed tears in sorrow." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huhiop (talk • contribs) 16:39, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

User:Huhiop that word refers to the elephants. It's an older word, but you could use it like "there is the babysitter and her charges" which means she's with the children she's in "charge" of. RobotGoggles (talk) 22:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Child in the intro

I think we should find a better photo for the intro. The image of the little girl implies that crying is inherently childish, and not simply a biological response to pain or emotion. If we can find a classical painting of someone crying (like the picture for suicide) that would work, or if we could have a close-up shot of a crying eye, that would work as well. The current photo does harm, albeit unintentionally. RobotGoggles (talk) 22:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Even one like the one from Sadness would be great. Avyanna.Owam (talk) 15:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

more feminine countries

"The gap between how often men and women cry is larger in wealthier, more democratic, and feminine countries."

what constitutes a more feminine country? Adhiyana (talk) 09:21, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

It is one where its government prioritises gender issues over others, such as Sweden, according to this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/world/europe/international-womens-day-feminism.html

Sincerely, 49.192.44.178 (talk) 10:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

The NYT article describes Sweden's feminist approach to government. Feminist, not feminine. The words are not equivalent. The article does not define "feminist countries", it only explores Sweden's approach. Schazjmd (talk) 00:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Classifying nations as "masculine" or "feminine" is based on Hofstede's cultural dimensions theory: " In this dimension, masculinity is defined as "a preference in society for achievement, heroism, assertiveness, and material rewards for success." Its counterpart represents "a preference for cooperation, modesty, caring for the weak, and quality of life." Schazjmd (talk) 14:06, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Crying in school-aged children

Why is this article almost entirely focused on adults and infants, and has very little information about crying in school-aged kids? I know that crying tends to decrease in school age and many pupils think that crying in public is ridiculous. I think this should be mentionned also in this article.--87.92.133.66 (talk) 20:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

New study found

I have found a news article claiming that some parents are better at decoding babies' cries than others, here is the article and the research paper referred: https://www.9news.com.au/national/understanding-baby-cries-crying-is-not-innate-and-must-be-learned-study-shows/b4d07970-d003-49a2-ac17-2758ec41f924, and this one https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(22)01081-8?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982222010818%3Fshowall%3Dtrue, hopefully these would be great additions to this article. Sincerely, 49.192.44.178 (talk) 10:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Word quotation

The words quoted on the second part of the introduction,first paragraph; there is no SOURCE stated that they said those words. Avyanna.Owam (talk) 15:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Another New York Times article

"Why Humans Cry" (with links to studies) Anyone see anything notable that's not already in the article? Mapsax (talk) 03:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)