Talk:Cthulhu 2000

Split

User:Cunard I am hoping that this one can be split from the rest of this article if the sources exist to do it? 2601:240:E200:3B60:2035:9716:EC96:13A0 (talk) 22:58, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

@Cunard sorry, not sure if the ping worked before. 2601:240:E200:3B60:FCE8:899:965C:A612 (talk) 12:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi 2601:240:E200:3B60:2035:9716:EC96:13A0. I agree that there is enough coverage to support a split. The book meets Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria, which says:

A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:

1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.

Sources

1. Robertson, Andy (February 1996). "The Gulfs Farther Out". Interzone. No. 104. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Internet Archive.

   The review notes: "H . P. Lovecraft’s centennial generated a minor flurry of books. Cthulhu 2000, edited by Jim Turner (Arkham House, $24.95), is the latest. Like every other work of "Lovecraftian  horror" that’s been perpetrated since the word became an adjective, it is a disappointment. I don't think I am being too hard on it by saying this. Disappointment is an inextricable part of Lovecraftian pastiche and Lovecraftian imitation, and this book is less of a disappointment than most. I can unreservedly praise five or six stories here."

2. "Cthulhu 2000". Kirkus Reviews. 1999. Archived from the original on 2023-11-07. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Pueblo City-County Library District.

   The review is under the "Published Reviews" section. The review also is available on Amazon. The review notes: "Anthology of reprints by 18 modern masters of the bizarre to honor horror mandarin Lovecraft's weird-aliens Cthulhu mythos, long mined by HPL followers for gold scatterings. Cosmic fantasist HPL regarded himself, as editor Turner tells us, as an "indifferentist," and any fellow human being as "only another collection of molecules." ... The Newman story alone is worth the price. The rest is just a seething mass of obscene gravy. Gobble it up."

3. Rainey, Stephen Mark (Spring 1996). "Cthulhu 2000". Deathrealm. No. 27. pp. 47–48. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Internet Archive.

   The review notes: "Surprisingly disappointing were Harlan Ellison's "On the Slab," a story that opens promisingly about the discovery of a giant, prehistoric man, but that devolves into something Clive Barker might have delivered on a bad day, and most surprisingly of all, Roger Zelazny's "24 Views of Mt. Fuji, by Hokusai," is a terribly dry, if artfully written piece of prose that seems to go absolutely nowhere -- a fact made all the more distasteful since the late Mr. Zelazny has always been one of my favorite fantasy authors. All in all, though, Cthulhu 2000 rates quite highly, and would be especially valuable to someone only moderately versed in the world of the Mythos. The best of the best in the "modern" world of the Great Old Ones is to be found here, and the packaging is typical high-quality Arkham House, with a beautiful cover illo by Bob Eggleton."

4. "Cthulhu 2000". Arcane Magazine. pp. 81–82. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Internet Archive.

   The review notes: "Despite the misleading title, the stories in this Lovecraft-inspired anthology are set during the 20th rather than 21st century. Had you come to this collection of works expecting futuristic horror, you’d be disappointed. Read it, however, and this irritation will flee, for the writing in the book's 400-odd pages represents the very best in modern Mythos prose. ... There are 18 tales here, by authors as diverse as TED Klein and cyberpunk guru Bruce Sterling. The range is equally broad, from traditional Lovecraft to more radical story-telling forms. ... House publication (New Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos, 1980 – published in the UK by Grafton, 1988) but, despite this, Cthulhu 2000 is a strong collection with plenty of inspiration for modern Calf of Cthulhu campaigns. And beside, it's a damn fine read."

5. Wilson, Gahan (February 1996). "Cthulhu 2000, edited by Jim Turner, Arkham House, WI, 413 pp., Hardcover, $24.95". Realms of Fantasy. Vol. 2, no. 3. pp. 14, 16. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Internet Archive.

   The author of the review said one of his stories is in the anthology so this is not an independent source. The review notes: "There are a number of highly impressive star turns including those of F. Paul Wilson, Poppy Z. Brite, Ramsey Campbell, and Harlan Ellison which you may have come across if you're very well read, and there is T. E. D. Kline's absolutely brilliant "Black Man With A Horn" which cannot be read enough. There is even a story by me, and if you think I'm not proud to be lurking in Cthulhu 2000, you've got another think coming."

6. Pettengale, Paul (January 1996). "Spinoffery". Interzone. No. 103. p. 65. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Internet Archive.

   The review notes: "Turner, Jim, ed. Cthulhu 2000: A Lovecraftian Anthology. Illustrated by Bob Eggleton. Arkham House, ISBN 0-87054-169-2, xvi+413pp, hardcover, $24.95. (Sf/fantasy/horror anthology, inspired by the works of H. P. Lovecraft [though sometimes only slightly]; first edition; it contains reprint stories by James P. Blaylock, Poppy Z. Brite, Ramsey Campbell, Harlan Ellison, Thomas Ligotti, Joanna Russ, Michael Shea, Bruce Sterling, Gene Wolfe, Roger Zelazny and others; Kim Newman's "The Big Fish" first appeared in Interzone; like all Arkham House books it's beautifully produced.)"

7. Dozois, Gardner, ed. (1996). The Year's Best Science Fiction: Thirteenth Annual Collection. New York: St. Martin's Press. p. l. ISBN 0-312-14451-2. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Internet Archive.

   The book notes: "There were some good reprint horror anthologies this year. The best of them explored the borders between genres, and featured SF as well as horror. Cthulhu 2000 (Arkham House), for instance, edited by Jim Turner, is a stylish and intelligent Lovecraftian anthology which, in addition to work by many of the writers you'd expect to find, also features work by writers who are usually not thought of as Lovecraftians, such as Roger Zelazny, Gene Wolfe, Lawrence Watt-Evans, Esther M. Friesner, Bruce Sterling, and Joanna Russ."

8. "June Publications". Publishers Weekly. Vol. 246, no. 21. 1999-05-24. p. 73. Archived from the original on 2023-11-07. Retrieved 2023-11-07 – via Gale.

   The article notes: "Eighteen contemporary writers pay homage to H.P. Lovecraft in Cthulhu 2000: A Lovecraftian Anthology. Editor Jim Turner provides a swarm of fantasy tales inspired by the Providence recluse's hallucinatory work. Though many of the stories are reprints, the selections are solid examples of what Lovecraft termed "the strange reality of the unreal." Contributors include F. Paul Wilson, Poppy Z. Brite, Harlan Ellison and Ramsey Campbell, among others."

Cunard (talk) 08:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your excellent work expanding and sourcing the article! Cunard (talk) 01:43, 12 November 2023 (UTC)