Talk:Cunigunda of France

Latest comment: 10 months ago by EZStrathHuston in topic Father's identity

Contradiction

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Today the article states:

Around 922, she married Ricuin, count of Verdun (d. 923), and had: Siegfried, count of Luxembourg.

But this contradicts two other articles that list Wigeric as father. Can we get a definitive source to cite on this point? WilliamKF (talk) 00:54, 27 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Looking at the Frence Wiki from which the article came, it has been updated and now agrees with Wigeric as father. WilliamKF (talk) 00:58, 27 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sources

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The French article has no sources but these are listed in the German WP:

Literatur
  • Erich Brandenburg: Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen. I.-XIV. Generation, Leipzig 1935. Neudruck mit Korrekturen 1998
  • Heinz Renn: Das erste Luxemburger Grafenhaus (963-1136). Rheinisches Archiv, 39 (1941)
  • Karl Ferdinand Werner: Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen bis um das Jahr 1000. In: Karl der Große, Band IV: Das Nachleben. Herausgegeben von Wolfgang Braunfels und Percy Ernst Schramm, 1967
  • René Klein: Wer waren die Eltern des Grafen Sigfrid? Eine neue Hypothese zum Ursprung des ersten Luxemburger Grafenhauses. in: Luxemburgische Gesellschaft für Genealogie und Heraldik, Jahrbuch 1998 - Association Luxembourgeoise de Généalogie et d'Héraldique, Annuaire 1998, S. 9-27
  • Detlev Schwennicke: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I.2 (1999), Tafel 202
  • Eduard Hlawitschka: Die Ahnen der hochmittelalterlichen deutsche Könige, Kaiser und ihrer Gemahlinnen. Ein kommentiertes Tafelwerk. Band I: 911-1137, 2 Teile, 2006 (MGH Hilfsmittel 25, 1-2)
  • Armin Wolf: Ahnen deutscher Könige und Königinnen. In: Herold-Jahrbuch, Neue Folge, 15. Band, 2010--Johnsoniensis (talk) 11:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Father's identity

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How is it known that her father was Eberhard of Sülichgau? It was added here without an edit summary or citation. The French page (where the English page was copied from, evidently) originally stated that her father was unknown, but currently states in the intro paragraph that "son père pourrait être Evrard de Sulichgau, un fils d'Unroch III de Frioul", added without citation: [1]

Also, the identity of Eberhard's father seems to be unclear. The pages for Unruoch III of Friuli in English and French identify Eberhard as his son, married to Ermentrude and father of Cunigunda. Unruoch's page in German identifies Eberhard as his son and Gisela as his daughter, mother of Regelinda, whose page in English lists Eberhard as her father apparently married to his sister, and in German as her uncle. Eberhard's own page makes no mention of Cunigunda, but does mention Regelinda as his daughter.

There are other issues but I'm tired of trying to figure it out, I don't even want to try to untangle the Adelhard von Burc thing (added here btw). EZStrathHuston (talk) 21:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply