Talk:CyberTown

Cybertown used to be an amazing place. I loved it from 2000 on for a few years, then things never changed and the place became boring. Did the funding stop? What happened?

-AmandaGirl

It vaguely explains what happened in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.217.241 (talk) 22:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

It has come to the attention of many that this new or latently lack luster copy of cybertown is being investigated. It is reported that some unregistered/unpaid/rogue style coders have somehow got ahold of some of the original cybertown code without express permission or authorization of the original designer(s) of the town. There was a character avatar by the name of Rayken that was involved with the orginal community. As the community stands at this point you can only login in and go to homes that are not functionable because these few rogue coders that volunteer time can not decipher the code used the majority of the communities functions. It has been stated that there might possibly be a financial stronghold on the copyrights of the community and that there might be legal actions taken 142.197.195.205 (talk) 13:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

The present form of the article on Cybertown contains numerous unsubstantiated assertions. The cumulative effect of these assertions is decidedly negative toward Cybertown. If the assertions were supported by citations, then the negative impact possibly might be apt and accurate. As it stands, there appears to be no factual basis for them. The article also contains multiple "opinion assertions" that cannot be described as "factual." The following is an example of the type of "opinion assertion" to which I refer: "While still cheaper than the popular Second Life it cannot compare or compete with it nor any other subscription based virtual experience" -- Horatia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Horatia (talk • contribs) 20:51, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I have removed the line "While still cheaper than the popular Second Life it cannot compare or compete with it nor any other subscription based virtual experience" which Horatia referred to. It might be worthy of re-adding, but it's filled with opinion. It needs some serious rewording as it is a polarized, charged statement, not a statement of proven fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.6.65.53 (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

How can a game with 5 active users compete with Second Life? I'm glad the line was re-added. This is common sense. -LordRayken

It's not an objective statement based on facts. What does "compete" even mean? It's completely unqualified. Feature-wise? That maintenance was not kept up does not change the fact that Cybertown came several years before Second Life, the latter is basically Cybertown copy. Member-wise? Then it needs to be rephrased, as being less successful doesn't make an alternative less competitive.

On another note, the article still states that the sites have been down since February 2012, but they've since returned. I believe the scripts are broken so the site is non-functional, but the (official?) Facebook group contains messages that speak of a planned rebuilding of Cybertown. It's unclear though how that would work since blaxxun are out of business and the plug-in is no longer being maintained.

129.132.14.205 (talk) 13:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I do not understand why this statement is allowed to remain: "While still cheaper than the popular Second Life it could not compare nor compete with it or any subscription based virtual experience." That is a bit broad isn't it? "Compare" what? How? "Compete" in what sense? How can anybody possibly say that Cybertown can't "compete" with "any subscription based virtual experience"? Is there a list of "all virtual experience" sites available on the internet? If so I'd certainly be interested in seeing it.

My second problem here is that Cybertown is characterized as a "game." It was never a "game." It was always a virtual community. While there were games available, Cybertown was no more a game than Facebook is--and Facebook certainly has games available for members to play.

A great deal of the article on Cybertown appears to have been composed by somebody who is trying to convince readers that Cybertown is/was an inferior place that is not worthy of visiting. In particular, the reader is urged to compare Cybertown to Second Life and conclude that Second Life is "better" in substantive ways.

Content at the Wikipedia is supposed to be "verifiable." I challenge whoever is posting the overly-broad and highly negative statements about Cybertown to produce verifiable information and reliable statistics to justify what looks remarkably like an attack on Cybertown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horatia (talk • contribs) 03:41, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I removed this statement because it is unverified and unverifiable as it stands: "While still cheaper than the popular Second Life it could not compare nor compete with it or any subscription based virtual experience" This Wikipedia article is supposed to be about Cybertown, not advertising space for Second Life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horatia (talk • contribs) 04:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC) Horatia (talk)Horatia —Preceding undated comment added 04:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC).

June 5, 2012 At the time of this note, Cybertown members are still waiting for it to come back online. Changes are being made after an ISP migration. Nothing has been indicated by IVN that Cybertown won't be back online soon. Members/citizens are in daily communication with each other, and 3D objects for Cybertown are still being created. There are many more citizens than the number stated by someone above. Also, Cybertown has been free since summer 2011. All citizens have been told that it will remain free. Skye-hook CT (talk) 10:48, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

That is interesting, thank you. I didn't even know the service became free again, and it's not yet noted in the article either. Although as of today the site is unreachable again, which could be related to troubles in changing ISPs, but is strange nonetheless. If you don't mind me asking, how can the service continue? Blaxxun is out of business, there is no official source to obtain the Contact plug-in anymore, and I doubt Cybertown have the rights to redistribute it. I've even read reports that the last released version doesn't work on many modern browsers anymore. How can Cybertown return under these circumstances? 84.226.242.133 (talk) 14:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

As a former user of CyberTown I see that the information might have been taken from the official CyberTown documentation, the article misses three of the most active parts of CyberTown; The Peace Keepers, object creation and trading, and several subscription price changes. The entry contains mostly opinion and the detail is trivial. The www.cybertown.com domain is now a holding page by an unrelated company. A closely related community was iCity http://icity.wikidot.com/. Lionjim (talk) 23:09, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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CTR - CyberTown Revival

I don't understand why reference to CTR and the Verge article was removed as "Non-neutral." Restoring reference to that article as it is relevant to Cybertown. TheEmperorAnt (talk) 21:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Non-neutral may not have been the right wording, but it did read as promotional text. I've changed the wording a little bit to make it feel like less of an advertisement. We don't want to copy the wording used in The Verge article outright. GSK (talk • edits) 23:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay, you may be correct, it does read as promotional. There is some language about a similar restoration over on The Sims Online wiki about the The Sims Online revival that could be copied and changed, particularly "CTR is a free fan-made recreation of Cybertown." TheEmperorAnt (talk) 10:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)