Talk:Cyber Sunday (2007)

Batista Bomb

Yes Batista did do two Batista Bombs, but then went for a pin and Undertaker kicked out. Batista 1 Batista Bomb and then got the win [1]. It should not say he pinned Undertaker after 2 Batista Bombs, it should say he won after a Batista Bomb. TJ Spyke 00:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

This does not matter. It was still two consecutive finishers. Batista didn't win after one powerbomb, he won after TWO. --Maestro25 06:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I explained this on an IP's talkpage. I will use an analagy to make this simple. You know the 1UP trick in certain Mario games? If you jump on two enemies and then miss, the count is reset. The same thing happens here; when Batista went for the pinfall attempt, that "reset" it. He did NOT hit two consecutive Batista Bombs. He hit 1 went for a pin, then went for another Batista Bomb. TJ Spyke 06:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Lets comprimise. We write after two batista bombs and add a subnote saying he went for the pin on the first one.(not in those exact words.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masterman4 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

But that's not accurate. The whole point is to list the move used to win the match. The first Batista Bomb did not do that since he went for a pinfall attempt and failed. If he had used the 2 Batista Bombs in a row, that would be different. TJ Spyke 00:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

What about edges spears back at new years rev. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masterman4 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

If that's how it's always been, why did it used to say (I just went and changed it) that Rock beat Austin at WM19 with 3 Rock Bottoms, and Edge beat Cena with 2 spears at NYR06? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.23.67 (talk) 23:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Because Rock did 3 Rock Bottoms in a row, he didn't go for pins in-between. Edge did, and has not been changed as well to say one. TJ Spyke 01:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Rock did go for pins in between each one. See? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vobf2eNwgw The Undertaker/Kane match at WrestleMania 14 is the same way in it's article, listing 3 Tombstones despite pins in between them all. Man, for something that's ALWAYS been done this way, there sure are quite a few that haven't been done this way, when you'd think they would. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.23.67 (talk) 18:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Removal of GA nominee

There are several issues that still need to be addressed before this article is ready to be a Good Article candidate. Please provide reliable third party sourcing (something other than WWE.com), add to the aftermath section, and wait for the article to stabilize. Once these concerns are addressed, please leave a note a WPT:PW that you feel the article is ready to be nominated. Wait one week for the members of the Wrestling WikiProject to help copyedit and look over the article. Then, if nobody opposes, the article can be nominated. Thanks. Nikki311 20:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Feedback

I've copyedited the article, but here are a few more suggestions:

• "He was not seen on WWE television since" - it isn't clear who.
• Another person needs to fix the writing, as I don't think it is up to GA standards. It is far too informal in some areas.
• The infobox image is not low resolution.

Hope that helps. Nikki311 03:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cyber Sunday (2007)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA Review by S_RX

Lead

• Before the following paragraph, the gimmick of the PPV should be mentioned.
• The main match on the SmackDown! brand was for the World Heavyweight Championship between Batista and The Undertaker with a Special Guest Referee of either Steve Austin, John "Bradshaw" Layfield or Mick Foley. Batista won the match by pinfall after executing a Batista Bomb.[4] The predominant match on the Raw brand was for the WWE Championship between Randy Orton and the fans' choice of either Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy or Mr. Kennedy.[5] The voting for the event started on October 9, 2007, and ended during the event.[6] As a part of the annual voting, fans were able to select the next in the line of WWE branded Fathead Wall Graphics from the choices of Rey Mysterio, The Boogeyman, Jeff Hardy, and CM Punk.[7] - After that is mentioned, either the results of the poll should be mentioned or just the result of the poll should be mentioned, like with Steve Austin as the Special Guest Referee
• As a part of the annual voting, fans were able to select the next in the line of WWE branded Fathead Wall Graphics from the choices of Rey Mysterio, The Boogeyman, Jeff Hardy, and CM Punk.[7] - the next in the line? Also, why is this notable to the event in order to be in the lead.
• Most of the existing feuds continued after the event. Notably, Shawn Michaels would continue to fued with Randy Orton over the WWE Championship, which lead to a match at Survivor Series for the championship, which Orton won. - lead? Is led meant here?

Background

• This feud began in May when Michaels faced Edge in Edge's last match. Michaels won the match via pinfall after a Sweet Chin Music. - his last match? Needs to be elaborated, why was it his last match, how was it his last match?
• I find the link to Punt (football) redundant to be linked when talking about the attack in pro wrestling, either it should be elaborated that the punt that Orton did was a kick similar to the format of a football punt.
• Despite this, Michaels hit Orton with a superkick to end the show. - why is not referred to as "Sweet Chin Music"? Needs to be consistent.
• Hardy scored the pinfall by pinning Kennedy after a Swanton Bomb, and, after the match, Michaels hit Orton with a superkick for the third week in a row, when Hardy pushed Orton into Michaels when Orton went to deliver Hardy an RKO.[16] - consistency is also needed here.
• Edge then came out and cashed in his Money in the Bank that he won from Mr. Kennedy the same week on Raw. - I'm pretty sure the MiTB is a contract no?
• He was not seen on WWE television since.[18] Soon after returning at Unforgiven in September,[19] their feud restarted when they stared each other down on the October 12 edition of SmackDown!. - these sentences are very well connected, but the way it is written here does not connect them. So he was not seen on WWE TV since, but he returned at Unforgiven. Can't some elaboration be placed in the middle here to connect these.
• Neither Foley or Austin appeared before Cyber Sunday, and Layfield began campaigning with banners, T-shirts, and buttons. - appeared where? replaced and with while.
• It should be noted in the ECW feud that Miz and Morrison are a tag team earlier in the match.

Event

• Throughout the event, the WWE Divas were shown in Halloween costumes in a contest where the winner will be determined by the fans. - remain in past tense, will ---> would
• It was announced that Matt Hardy was not medically cleared to compete, and a match was announced with Montel Vontavious Porter (MVP) defending his WWE United States Championship against the fans' choice between Kane, The Great Khali, and Mark Henry. - it should be noted that he wasn't able to compete due to the injury sustained on SmackDown!
• Hardy regained control with a top rope Hurricanrana. Kennedy won the match after Hardy missed a rope-aided corner dropkick. - so via what scoring condition did Kennedy win?
• Kane won the match, and MVP retained his title. - it should be noted that he retained per WWE rules.
• Near the end of the match, Michaels regained the upper hand, but as he was attempting a superkick, Orton delivered a low blow to Michaels. Michaels won the match by disqualification, and Orton retained his title. After the match, Orton attempted a running punt to the fallen Michaels, but before he could, Michaels got up, and hit the superkick.[5][33] - again remain consistent, remain using "superkick" or "sweet chin music."
• The match began in the entrance area and involved Umaga getting speared through the stage setting and moved to into the audience before returning to the ring. - needs a transition to flow with the brawl moving into the audience.
• The match ended when Triple H hit Umaga with a sledgehammer and a Pedigree to score the victory. - so he won via what scoring condition?
• Shorten "Stone Cold Steve Austin" to "Steve Austin, as that is his proper name.
• Both John "Bradshaw" Layfield and Mick Foley came into the ring and fought before Austin came down and delivered a Stone Cold Stunner to both. - to both of what?
• The match went back and forth both men hitting their signature moves. - there is no transition between "forth" and "both"
• (after a pinfall attempt after the first one) - what is meant by this?

Aftermath

• As in added stipulation the title match, Michaels was banned from using the Sweet Chin Music by orders of RAW General Manager William Regal. - lowercase the rest of RAW per WP:MOS.

References

• [2] - not a reliable source.
• [10] - has no publisher.
• [18] - not a reliable source.
• [49] - not a reliable source.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   Per comments above.

   B. MoS compliance:

   There is a WP:OVERLINK violation in this article. Once the first time the subject is linked in the background, it should not be linked again in the rest of the sections, not even the results.

   Actually, consensus has always been that it should be linked one time in every section. -- iMatthew _T.C. 02:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   Per comments above.

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

   About the graphic wallpaper, it is not relevant to the event.

   That was the poster produced by World Wrestling Entertainment

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Many issues with prose and MOS. Article is on hold till concerns are addressed.S_RX 01:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

All of your concerns have been addressed. -- iMatthew _T.C. 02:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. Though, the article is still overlinked. Consensus at a Wikiproject cannot overrule over Wikipedia policy. Until that is addressed in someway, I cannot pass the article.S_RX 02:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what the consensus is in a project, you have to abide by the Manual of Style. See here. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Well in this case, I would have thought that IAR might apply, but instead of bothering, I've completed your request. Cheers, -- iMatthew _T.C. 11:41, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Great. Pass--S_RX 03:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Poster

Are you sure thats Candice Michelle? MC Steel (talk) 04:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

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