Talk:Cyber spying/Archive 1
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Hey, I redirected this because the subject is already covered at Computer surveillance. There is no need for two articles on the same topic. Will you allow the redirect, or do you want me to get a third opinion or something. Ironholds (talk) 05:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I think there is lot of difference between "surveillance" and "Spying", one is monitoring the other is extracting secret and classified info and subverting etc. mrigthrishna (talk) 05:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- But you will note that the surveillance article covers what you term "spying" activities. Monitoring computers allows for the "extraction" of information that you have described, and they are essentially the same topic. Ironholds (talk) 05:49, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Could you please reply to my message about the validity of the article before you start expanding something that will probably need to be redirected anyway? Ironholds (talk) 06:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
As many would agree Cyber spying is one of the most modern Espionage techniques, of which surveillance is just one aspect. "Cyber spying" or "Cyber espionage" is a whole new field by itself and deserves a separate article.
Everyone is welcome to improve this article in time. mrigthrishna (talk) 06:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- As many would agree? So far I'm seeing one person, who has written a completely unreferenced article. Would you mind finding consensus that "cyber spying" is different from "cyber surveillance", either from other users or from reliable sources? If you want I can pull in some third parties. Ironholds (talk) 06:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I would suggest this article either be merged with a general espionage article, or renamed. 'Cyber' is a phrase that indicates ignorance in the speaker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.39.32.138 (talk) 23:41, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
use of "criminal"
I think the use of "criminal" in this current sentence in the article, is not exactly consistent with its context:
"It may wholly be perpetrated online from computer desks of professionals on bases in far away countries or may involve infiltration at home by computer trained conventional spies and moles or in other cases may be the criminal handiwork of amateur malicious hackers and software programmers."
I think the notion that the only criminal cyber-spying is done by "amateur malicious hackers and software programmers" is misleading -- cyber-spying, as perpetrated by *anyone*, can be criminal depending on the act in question. Especically since "criminal" is link-bracketed in the sentence in question, I think this should change. I am changing it now, and am just noting the grammatical reasoning here. 173.3.41.6 (talk) 22:52, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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