Talk:Cyclone Favio

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Yellow Evan in topic Miscellany and External Links & References

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Before GAN, the article should really utilize the WMO report. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

  Done. YE Pacific Hurricane
There's no mention of rainfall in Malawi. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Should be dealt with by now. YE Pacific Hurricane 03:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 16:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

  • " was the first known tropical cyclone" - given what "tropical cyclone" means in the SWIO, I'd say something like "storm" as a pipe from TC. Like storm. Also, is there a better ref than GP who said the opening statement's fact? GP only uses operational data, so it's not the most valid in terms of records.
    • Favio was a cyclone as well, and it's not like the storm was altered significantly during re-anylsis.
  • " Early on February 11, 2007, a zone of disturbed weather first formed west of Madagascar." - that's not true at all, per the track
  • The opening paragraph of the lede is very dry. Try merging a few of the sentences.
  • You're missing Madagascar impact. The storm passed just to the south, it had to have caused impact there.
    • No, it did not affect Madagascar. OTherwise, I would have added it (as soon as I type this, I will magically find impact) `YE Pacific Hurricane
  • "Intense Tropical Cyclone Favio brought widespread damage to Vilanculos in Mozambique" - how can there be widespread damage in just one city?
  • "Uprooted trees caused by the cyclone also blocked roads." - the also seems weird, and is this also in relation to Vilanculos? If so, merge this with the subsequent sentence.
  • "In the city, The cyclone killed four people and injured at least 70 in the town. " - watch capitalization.
  • Overall, there is too much focus on Vilanculos. The town only has 25,000 people in it. I understand it was largely destroyed, but the lede has a bit too much detail for there.
  • "$71 million 2007 USD in damage" - parenthesis would be nice.
  • "Around 130,000 homes suffered damage and 130 schools were leveled by the tropical cyclone. " - overall? In Vilanculos? In Mozambique?
  • "An airplane was crushed in an airport as well. " - too trivial
  • "A total of 33,000 people were left homeless during the system." - again, in Vilanculos? Mozambique? Overall? Also, "during the system" is odd.
  • "Cyclone Favio destroyed 277,000 hectares of crops." - short sentence, and needs a conversion to acres.
  • "Furthermore, 160,000 people were affected by the storm throughout the country." - what does it mean if they are affected?
  • "In Zimbabwe, 400 electricity poles were downed." - that is a pretty horrible way to summarize the damage outside of Mozambique. It is a very short sentence, not the best worded.
  • "Because many people were concerned about the outbreak of diseases after the storm, health officials provided public awareness. One agency donated $626,500, helping transport 50,000 mosquito nets to the devastated area." - these don't make sense next to each other.
  • "In all, the government was praised for how well they handled the disaster." - by whom?
    • This is the lead, I don't need to go into detail here. It's long enough as it is. YE Pacific Hurricane
  • "Cyclone Favio originated from a zone of that Météo-France (MF) first classified as a zone of disturbed weather at 1200 UTC February 11, 2007." I don't even know what's wrong with this sentence. Link UTC, btw.
  • "Twelve hours later, the agency issued their first advisory on Favio." - how? The previous sentence said JTWC issued the first advisory.
  • "According to the Joint Typhoon Warning Center (JTWC), an area of convection developed 340 mi (550 km) south-southwest of Diego Garcia" - that feels totally wrong at the end of the paragraph.
  • "However, sea surface temperatures in the area were 84 °F (29 °C) so gradual intensification was predicted and the storm was projected to become a severe tropical storm within 48 hours." - comma needed. Also, since it's SWIO, it should be C first, not F. Also, what does 84/29 mean? Is that warm or not? Why would that allow it to become an STS?
  • " Continuing to encounter more favorable conditions, the JTWC issued a Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert (TCFA) on February 14." - you said in the previous paragraph that the JTWC began issuing advisories. How...?
  • BTW, the abbreviation for Meteo-France is MFR.
  • "Eighteen hours later, the system was named Favio by the Meteorological Services of Mauritius[1] as the system; according to MWR, had intensified into a moderate tropical storm." - dates are helpful. Also, I think misuse of semicolon.

All in all, the article is pretty poorly written. I'm only halfway through the MH, and there are still many problems. The article is not good, and the content could be better, too. I'm going to have to fail the GAN, sorry. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Reviewer: TheAustinMan (talk · contribs) 02:15, 27 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello again, YE. I will be reviewing Cyclone Favio, which at first glance is quite an interesting tropical cyclone. As I've said before, please do not dismiss my more meticulous, minor qualms as "outside the scope of WP:WIAGA." I like to give as many suggestions as possible to help and improve the article. As you've said this yourself, treat this like a mini-WP:FAC. I'll be only slightly more lenient with this review than I was with the last, but that won't stop me from failing the review if it does not meet the larger qualms within a week. You said that you'd "hire" User:Hylian Auree to copyedit, but instead you went ahead and fired up another GAN, so I hope you made a decision that you thought was wise. I'll sort this review by section, with the content in question, from the article, in italics. Below is my review, and thanks in advance for your cooperation. TheAustinMan(Talk·Works) 02:15, 27 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

General Reminders

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Lead

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  • "Early on February 11, 2007, a zone of disturbed weather first formed east of Madagascar." → Since "formed" is already used as a 'first instance of such event occurring,' you don't need the word 'first' in the sentence.
  • "Four days later, Favio intensified to a moderate tropical storm while moving southwest. " → This is the first time you've used the word Favio in a synoptic context, so you leave the reader to guess when the previously mentioned 'zone of disturbed weather' was named, or became a depression for that matter. You should add a sentence beforehand indicating when this 'zone of disturbed weather' became Favio.
  • "The storm further intensified early on February 18 and was thus upgraded into a severe tropical storm." → The way you add 'storm further intensified early...' makes it seem like Favio intensified only early on that day and then stopped for a period of time before some other future intensification event. I'd recommend this wording - "The storm was upgraded into a severe tropical storm early on February 18 as it continued to intensify." That way, you erase any confusion and you don't need the 'continuing to intensify' two sentences later. Remember you don't need to indicate what the storm was doing at every intensity change.
  • "...the small tropical cyclone reached intense tropical cyclone status the next day while peaking in intensity." → Two issues here. One, you should change the first 'tropical cyclone' to a synonym so you don't have two 'tropical cyclone' texts. Second, it didn't reach that status while peaking in intensity, it reached that status and then peaked in intensity.
  • "However, the cyclone had weakened somewhat prior to making landfall on February 22 in the Inhambane Province in Mozambique." → Since you have two 'in's, change the first instance of 'in' to on.
  • "Around 130,00 0homes suffered damage..." → You shifted the zero over to the home to make an 0home.
  • "In Zimbabwe, 400 electricity poles were downed." → This is the first time you've mentioned Zimbabwe, so you should link it. TheAustinMan(Talk·Works) 02:15, 27 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Meteorological history

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  • "Cyclone Favio originated from a zone of that Météo-France office on Réunion (MFR),which is the official Regional Specialized Meteorological Center for the south-west Indian Ocean, first classified as a zone of disturbed weather at 1200 UTC February 11, 2007." → This sentence is built with misaligned bolts and riveting. Since there are a number of issues here, I'll provide you the suggested wording - "Cyclone Favio originated from a zone of disturbed weather at 1200 UTC on February 11, 2007 within the area of responsibility of the Météo-France office on Réunion (MFR).[nb 1]" And with that note explain how that is the official RSMC of the southwest Indian Ocean, kind of like we do explaining how JMA and JTWC are as notes.
  • "Twelve hours later, the JTWC issued their first advisory of the system, designating it as 14S." First thing, you say JTWC but never explain what JTWC stands for until the next paragraph. That should be swapped. Second, it should be the first advisory on the system, and not of. Third and most important thing, according to the sources you provided, the JTWC designated the system as 14S on February 14 – the JTWC does not assign tropical cyclone-type designations to invests, and according to the agency, Favio was an INVEST at the time.
  • "Midday on February 12, MFR upgraded the system into a tropical disturbance and noted that its rating at that time on the Dvorak Technique was 2.0." → Technique should not be capitalized.
  • "According to the Joint Typhoon Warning Center (JTWC), an area of convection developed 340 mi (545 km)* south-southwest of Diego Garcia." → Again, like I said earlier the abbreviation-explanation for JTWC should've been in the other paragraph. Secondly, the main issue is that the reference that cites this source (#2) is a MFR site that has nothing to do with the JTWC, so you should get a JTWC best track instead, which also explains that it was an area of convection in the first place.
  • "Initially, however, the convection was not very concentrated near the center. However,sea surface temperatures in the area were somewhat warm so gradual intensification was predicted and the storm was projected to become a severe tropical storm within 48 hours." → You should axe out the first use of 'however' since 'Initially' already takes care of the meaning there.
  • "as the system; according to MWR, had intensified into a moderate tropical storm." → I'm pretty sure the MFR upgrades storms and not the Monthly Weather Review :P.
  • "After intensifying slightly (based on JTWC data) that evening, the storm briefly weakened overnight, only to re-intensify that morning." → Since the morning is on the following day you should say the 'next morning' or the 'following morning' or some other derivative of 'the morning of the next day'.
  • "On February 16, Favio turned southeast in response to a large subtropical ridge." → According to the storm path picture you have there, there's never a turn to the southeast so I don't know what you're looking at. I assume you meant southwest.
  • "Subsequently, the storm turned west as the ridge merged with another one centered over South Africa. Two days later, the agency then upgraded the system into cyclone status." → I don't have any problems with the sentence itself, but the reference that follows (#2), says nothing about two ridges merging. You probably forgot a Gary Padgett source in the sentence.
  • "At 0000 UTC that day, on February 19, the JTWC upgraded the system into a Category 1 hurricane-equivalent on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale (SHWS)..." → Based off of texts and the linked article itself, "hurricane wind scale" should not be capitalized. Secondly, it's SSHWS, not SHWS.
  • "...though not much addition intensification was predicted." → 'Addition' is a noun. Since it's placed before a noun, it should be 'additional' - a verb.
  • "Filao turned west-northwest, traversing the Mozambique Channel while beginning to deepen." → Huh? When did we start talking about Cyclone Filao?
  • "At 000 UTC February 20, the JTWC declared that Favio had intensified into a Category 2 hurricane-equivalent on the SSHWS." → You got 'SSHWS' right this time around but you're missing a zero in '0000 UTC'.
  • "Several hours later, Favio was then upgraded into an intense tropical cyclone by MF..." → Since you specified earlier and for consistency reasons, 'MF' should be 'MFR'. This also occurs several times throughout the meteorological history so you'll have to fix those too.
  • "...becoming the most intense South-West Indian Ocean north of the 25th parallel since the satellite era began." → Since it's not linked, or specified in the source, you should research when this 'satellite era' began and put it in the article to give a sense in how much the satellite era spanned. Otherwise the reader, if they aren't knowledgeable on space science, might be confused as to what this satellite era spanned.
    • I added a wikilink which means the history of satellites. Satellite era itself is a term that can be some disagreement over the start off, if what I am saying makes sense, which probably does not, and I deserve to have a shoe thrown at by CB. YE Pacific Hurricane 03:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • "Six hours later, the JTWC announced that Favio had peak in intensity, with 140 mph (225 km/h)* winds. This made Favio equal to a Category 4 hurricane on the SSHWS." → First thing - it's 'peaked', not 'peak', since you have 'had' beforehand. Also, you don't need to specify what it was equivalent to - you already stated it had intensified to a C4 two sentences prior. There wasn't another classification change, so this is redundant and not needed. It's in the infobox, too.
  • "The JTWC excepted Favio to continuing to weaken, and dissipate within 48 hours over land." → 'Continuing' should be changed to 'continue'.
  • "The eye disappeared off of satellite imagery..." → You need a comma after imagery.
  • "On the other hand, MF estimated winds of 105 mph (170 km/h)*." → You give the intensity-equivalent for the JTWC estimate on the SSHWS scale (C1), but you don't give the intensity-equivalent of the MFR estimate on the MFR scale. Be sure to balance both agencies.
  • "Upon making landfall, it did so on the seven years anniversary of the last intense tropical cyclone, Eline, to strike Mozambique," → Three issues. You should change 'seven years anniversary' to 'seventh anniversary'. By definition provided by the Oxford Dictionary, an 'anniversary' is a date on which an event took place in a previous year, so its meaning should already be implied. Secondly, the reference which cites this (#15) has nothing to do with Eline or Favio, but Cyclone Gelane from 2010. Please find an actual source. Third and lastly, since the next sentence is on a different topic, change the comma after Mozambique to a full stop.
  • "Favio was also the first tropical cyclone to hit the country since Cyclone Japhet did during the 2002-03 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season." → There's a double space between 'country' and 'since'. It doesn't show up on read-format but it is there.

Preparations

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Impact

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  • "Along the southeastern portion of the nation, road access was restricted." → The source says road access was reduced, not restricted. Restricted is too strong of a word and it will give readers the wrong meaning.
  • "Moreover, the cyclone disrupted relief efforts during an aftermath of flood that killed three persons and displaced 33,000 people throughout the country." → You should add an 'a' before flood. Also, just to clarify, you should add 'had' before 'displaced', so the reader will know that the flood displaced 33,000 people for sure, and not Favio.
    • IT's clear. I'm not replying to these BS comments anymore. If there is no reply, I'm not addressing them. 03:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
  • "Overall, the cyclone was one of several storms to affect the nation during the season." → Since this isn't the lead, you should go into further detail and say that it was one of six storms specifically to affect the nation.
  • "In all, a total of 10 people were killed by the storm and nearly 100 others were injured." → Since '10' is a one syllable number it should be changed to ten per WP:MOS.
  • "About 64,000 people moved to tents during the storm, and[25] 33,000 people were displaced during the storm." → Not sure why you have the reference after 'and' and not after the coma.
  • "Cyclone Favio destroyed 277,000 ha (684,480 acres)* of crops primarily in Vilanculos, Inhassoro, Govuro, and Masinga districts in Inhambane Province." → Add a comma after crops.
  • "Favio damaged the court in the resort town of Vilanculos in Southern Mozambique." → You should specify that it was the town court. Moreover, people could think that the court might be some old blacktop basketball court. You should flush out the details since this isn't the lead.
  • "Additionally, 600 prisoners escaped when the local jail was demolished." → There's no issue here, but were they found?
  • "Elsewhere, the storm unearthed trees and blew off rooftops in Pontagea" → By concise definition, 'unearth' is reserved for objects that are entirely within the ground, so find a synonym for 'uproot', or use 'uproot'.
  • "Bazaruto Island, which is only normally reachable by boats and helicopters, was cut off from when the island's electricity grid was destroyed." → The only thing that source #1 says about Bazaruto Island is that it was struck first, so I don't know where you're getting all this information. Also, "only normally reachable by boats and helicopters" is not needed. We get it, it's an island. It's not like you drive a car there.
  • "In Zimbabwe, the Bvumba Mountains received heavy winds and rain." → You can link Bvumba Mountains.
  • "Throughout the country, damage was minimal and was most due to the uprooting of trees..." → Most should be mostly.
  • "Furthermore, the remnants of the low struck southern Tanzania. Cyclone Favio also destroyed 56 houses in Hai." → You combine these two sentences, because Hai District is a part of Tanzania. That'll also get rid of the 'also' which isn't needed.

Aftermath

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