Talk:Cyclone Indlala/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: TheAustinMan (talk · contribs) 21:26, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Howdy, Hurricanehink! I'll be taking a look at this article shortly and evaluating it against the good article criteria. --TheAustinMan^{(Talk ⬩ Edits)} 21:26, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

• Madagascar should be linked at least once in prose. Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert, trough (meteorology), and hurricane-force should also be linked.

• Agreed! Done. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• You describe Indlala as "The 12th tropical system...", but this might be a bit ambiguous. After all, monsoon troughs and unorganized clusters of tropical thunderstorms might also be considered "tropical systems". I'm not sure if there's a workaround, but you might want to check to see if there's a term that MFR uses to collectively describe organized tropical systems.

• Not really, since that might include ZODW and disturbances. I just removed the "12th tropical system", it's not really needed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• Be sure to hyphenate 10-minute and 1-minute.

• Dash done. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• For the statement "The cyclone struck Madagascar after the country already experienced deadly floods and other cyclones", how recent were these floods and cyclones? You indicate three months in the body of the article, so that'd be good to include in the lede, too.

• Changed to "The cyclone struck Madagascar a few months after the country experienced a series of deadly floods and other cyclones." ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• The Meteorological history section is sharply written. Stellar work!

• WHOO! Thanks :D ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• From the Mauritius report, I see a peak gust of 65 km/h on St. Brandon and a 48 km/h gust on Agaléga, which seems to be different than what the article says despite citing the same source.

• Shit, thanks for checking that, I must've been rek'd when I wrote that ._. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• The reference "Madagascar: Fifth Cyclone Hits Island Bulletin no. 1/2007" has a different date format than all the other references.

• Merged ref. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• The Impact section and the associated source says damage was over US$240 million (emphasis mine) while the lede and infobox suggest the damage was either at or around US$240 million, so these should be made consistent.

• True. I indicated in the lead and infobox that it's greater than US$240M. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• For the claim that "Houses made of concrete fared better than traditional wooden huts", in the associated source the report does discuss "traditional houses", but I can't find any description of these traditional homes as being wooden or being huts, as the article claims.

• Changed to the roofs, I think that was a remnant from a previous version of the article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• I see both metric ton (tonne) and ton used in the Aftermath section. It may be useful to provide the relevant metric/customary conversions for these measures so that it is unambiguous what units are being used.

• I forgot this one. I believe I got all of your comments in your GA review, TheAustinMan (talk · contribs). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

• A "US" is missing from "the American embassy in Antananarivo released $100,000 for urgent relief operations".

• Added. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• "along with a tam four disaster management experts" — I wasn't involved, was I?

• XD fixed ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• The pictures are relevant and public domain, though I think the track map caption should be a bit more descriptive, in line with other cyclone articles, and the date of the infobox image noted in its caption. That caption might also be a good place to note that it depicts the JTWC track since the prose describes a few things that don't really line up with the image (i.e. the reemergence into the Indian Ocean). The selection of images is sufficient, but I would consider perhaps swapping out the satellite image in the Impact section for something that hints at the impact a bit more. Perhaps some of these public images from Earth Observatory may be of use.

• I added the date caption and the track map, as well as the NASA pic, good call. I kept both satellite images, because the structure was different when it moved ashore, and because there's room for multiple images. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

And that's all I have to say. I look forward to promoting this article once the above notes are addressed. It's a smooth article and reads like the breeze, sticking to the facts without bludgeoning the details. Certainly checks off the boxes for being readily understandable for the lay person, I think, and the sources are quality. The article appears to cover the necessary scope. The sources are authoritative and reliable on their own already, though I wonder if perhaps the addition of Malagasy sources (search for "Indlala site:.mg" on Google, for instance) may be able to add some local perspective. TheAustinMan^{(Talk ⬩ Edits)} 22:29, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks, I added a few more hits in Malagasy. I hope my fixes are sufficient. I appreciated the review TAM, and glad you liked it! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)