Talk:Cypress Lake High School

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The school had a tradition known as the senior parade, that was continued from each graduating class until the class of 2007. The senior parade was celebrated by juniors the day after the seniors graduated. The juniors would meet at Rutenberg Park fully dressed in yellow and purple. At 7:00 a.m. the juniors would race to the school screaming and hollering. Once they reached the school the students would "parade" throughout the entire school until classes began. The class of 2007 ended this tradition due to vandalism, drug use, alcohol consumption, and malicious behavior. During the parade a teacher's car was damaged, windows were broken, cameras were spray painted, and the foundations of a portable cracked. In addition to the colossal destruction of school property, a drug search was enacted that sent almost half of the class of 2007 to ALC.

Do not reinsert it without sourcing it to a reliable source. Horologium (talk) 18:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Overall quality needs improvement

Personally, this article has way too much fluff. Someone who is knowledgeable about current details of the school needs to revise it. This isn't an advertisement and the cutesy words need to go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.155.249 (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Current events

Would someone who insists on trying to force in a recent, minor incident, like to explain why WP:NOTNEWS should be ignored and how WP:RECENTISM isn't good advice? This is a minor incident that will be long forgotten a year from now. It is classic recentism. "Up to date" means changing the name of the principal or if half the school burned down, not turning it into a newspaper because of a minor incident. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:13, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#WP:NOTNEWS

The edit history for this article has been linked into a discussion at WT:What Wikipedia is NOT#WP:NOTNEWS  Unscintillating (talk) 02:19, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

• That isn't where you go to discuss this issue. It's not a noticeboard. Regardless, the first step is to discuss it here. Niteshift36 (talk) 12:55, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

References removed regarding Cypress Lake High School in the national spotlight

• We are here to build an encyclopedia, not remove references for a high school in the national spotlight.  This story has gone national; being picked up by the Washington Times, the Christian Science Monitor, Huffington Post, and Glenn Beck.  Unscintillating (talk) 01:39, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• Why do you start a new section every time? I've stated the policy based reason I oppose inclusion. Your reasoning seems to be based on WP:ILIKEIT. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:17, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry you are having trouble following the sections here, but this section is in regards to your removal of references.  That is why it says, "References removed".  It also turns out that in your zeal to remove WP:RS, you deleted all of the categories from the article.  You have not stated a policy-based reason for removing references and categories.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

• I'm not having trouble following your needless creation of sections each time. I'm merely pointing out the uselessness of it. Regardless, I HAVE complied with policy. You've done nothing but misapply policies and rely on ILIKEIT. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:53, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• I started a new section to respond to your first sentence.  Please use this section for discussing the removal of references.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
• I write above that you have not stated a policy-based reason for removing references and categories, and your next related edit is to remove a reference and alter categories without an edit comment.  At this point, you've probably deleted more than half of this article.  Your most recent edit comment mentions "recentism", but WP:RECENTISM is an essay and you don't seem to understand that it is unusual for a high school to get national coverage.  Further, as I said back on March 5, 2013, WP:NOT#NEWSPAPER says that "editors are encouraged to include current and up-to-date information within its coverage".  Unscintillating (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• I didn't need an edit comment because I've already explained why they don't belong. Further, I edited the categories to put them in the most correct ones. For example, the school isn't located in the city of Ft. Myers, but it is located in Lee County. Since the FM cat is a sub cat of the Lee one, it makes sense to move to the accurate, parent category. I am fully aware that recentism is an essay, but WP:NOTNEWS is policy and it applies here. WP:UNDUE is also policy and applicable here. You were one of the editors addressed in the original request to discuss, along with IP editor 24.30.78.202. That's two, plural, so stop with your childish silliness about "imaginary people". Niteshift36 (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• Note: Since it appears we're far from agreeing, I've asked for an outside opinion on the matter from WP:3O. Niteshift36 (talk) 12:07, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I'm User:Howicus, I came here from WP:3. I'd like to help, but first, I have a few questions. What is the reference in question, and what is it being used to source? Also, tell me if I'm wrong, but Unscintillating is adding the reference, and Niteshift36 is removing it, right? Howicus (talk) 16:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've read it over a bit more, I assume this [1] is the source in question. I'm inclined to agree with Niteshift36 here. The incident generated a lot of buzz back in March, but now the coverage seems to have died down. The incident, in my opinion, is not notable enough to warrant a mention in the article. Howicus (talk) 16:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• Your assumption about the source and who is doing what is correct. Thank you for your input. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

response to comments about this talk page

• Actually, you are having difficulty in following these sections, in a previous section you project the existence of editors who "insist" and "try to force".  You want to talk to one or more of these imaginary people.  In another section, you replied to a courtesy notice which said that the topic here had been cited on another talk page.  You seemed to think that you should explain that talk pages are not noticeboards.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• This new section every time you respond is absurd and intentionally disruptive. Any further responses will be in those previous discussion. Niteshift36 (talk) 01:45, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Recent promotional edits

The issue isn't that there is no source for the material you're adding to the Cypress Lake article, it's that it's not encyclopedic. Just because something is in a source somewhere doesn't mean it belong here. Also, we need to avoid using primary sources so heavily. Lastly, a person being in a notable play doesn't become notable. Notability has to be established for Michael Fatica before he goes on the list. Just getting a part in a play doesn't cut it. Please discuss the matter on the talk page. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:34, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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