Talk:Cyrus Prudhomme David

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that the Colonial Office refused to appoint Cyrus Prudhomme David to the magistracy, considering it wrong "as a matter of policy" to appoint a second Black man to a legal post in Trinidad and Tobago? Source: "A. C. Harris, a principal clerk in the Colonial Office argued that it would wrong 'as a matter of principle' to give another legal appoint to a 'black man'" - Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
  • ALT1: ... that in 1902 Cyrus Prudhomme David argued that Britain's use of the colonies to produce "tropical produce and taxpayers" meant that "demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery"? Source: "So long as the stewards of the Crown persist in regarding these undeveloped estates of the Crown as so many fields for the raising of tropical produce and taxpayers, thus long will all demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery" - C.P. David quoted in Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leonel Gómez Vides

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 03:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC).

• Eligible for DYK, suitable length and referencing, no copyvio, no problem with spotchecked inline citations. Hook is interesting, well-sourced and appropriate. QPQ done. This is good to go. Thanks for your hard work! — Bilorv (talk) 13:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

ALT0 to T:DYK/P6

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cyrus Prudhomme David/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ealdgyth (talk · contribs) 15:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

I'll get to this in the next few days. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• I randomly googled three phrases and only turned up Wikipedia mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no sign of copyright violation.
• Lead:
  • "read law" this isn't going to mean much to many Americans - could we link or explicate?Y Linked reading law
  • Link for "Colonial Office"? Done
• Early life:
  • "on November 1867" .. shouldn't this be "in November"?Y Yes, fixed.
  • Links for "Queen's Royal College" and "Port of Spain"? Done
• Political career:
  • "creating an official majority on the council" an majority of what/who?
  • "Prior to this, the unofficial members had constituted a majority on the council, and Chamberlain's actions weakened the already limited power of local residents." I think we need an explanation of what official and unofficial members are and how unofficial members could actually do anything useful? Ah, i see there's an explanation further on - suggest moving this explanation up to the first mention of the Legislative CouncilY I moved the details about the council's composition up from late in the article. I think that satisfies the prior issue as well.
  • "David argued that as long as Britain persists in treating the colonies as merely" pretty sure we want "David argued that as long as Britain persisted in treating the colonies as merely" here, to keep the verbs in the same tense. Done
• Appointment:
  • THe last sentence of this section is repeated in the next section - it's unneeded in one of these places. I cut out most of the repeat information, but I left the sentence because it's the only way I can think to mention his campaigning for local government reform (short of writing the whole article on the topic, which I hope to do one of these days.
• Indian indentureship:
  • "and in 1902 David suggested that this cost, which primarily benefited a relatively small number of large sugar planters." what did David suggest? I see the next sentence says it, but the structure of the two sentences is very awkward and needs rephrasing.Y Rewritten and (hopefully) clarified a bit.
• that's it, nice little article!

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the review Ealdgyth. I think I've addressed everything you raised (hopefully without creating a whole new set of issues). Guettarda (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Those all look good, passing this now. Ealdgyth (talk) 13:19, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks so much @Ealdgyth! Guettarda (talk) 16:04, 5 May 2022 (UTC)