Talk:Czech diaspora in Israel

Requested move 3 September 2020

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) -- Calidum 15:43, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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Czech diaspora in Israel → Czechoslovakian Jews in Israel – The current naming is in complete dissonance with the content - the listed communities and persons are in no way Czech (neither ethnically nor nationally speaking), but rather descended from Czechoslovakian Jews. GreyShark (dibra) 12:15, 3 September 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Oppose This article relates to people descended from the Czech lands. The article doesn't need to be changed to reinforce religious and racial segregation. The Czech lands and the Czech Republic have always included diversity, religiously and culturally, with people from Slavic Czech, German, Jewish, Romani, Vietnamese, Hungarian, Polish, and many other backgrounds. I would add that while many Jews from the Czech lands have come from Czechoslovakia, others came from the Austro-Hungarian Empire and a smaller number from the Czech Republic. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:40, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Whatever your opinion on the matter - the branding of Czechoslovakian Jews as Czechs is very strange and dubious in the Israeli landscape. I would like to see some sources on "Czech identity" of Czechoslovakian Jews and their descendants in Israel and why also Slovakian Jews are included in this article even though when they migrated it was a single state of Czechoslovakia, so it becomes purely anachronistic.GreyShark (dibra) 08:00, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't see why Slovak Jews would be included in this page either. If the page must be unnecessarily renamed in service of a racist agenda, then I would propose a title such as "Czech Jews in Israel" or "Czech and Slovak Jews in Israel". Better yet, information about Slovaks should be in a Slovak-Israeli diaspora article. I know that Ruth Bondy has written extensively about Czech Jews both in Israel and the Czech Republic. This article does need to be fleshed out and needs more sources. It's pretty bare at the moment. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 22:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

User:Greyshark09, Who are the Slovak Jews included in the article? I looked at the bio articles and they all seem to be born in the Czech lands, unless I am missing someone. Thanks. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 22:51, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. As above, this is about people and their descendants from the Czech lands, not just from Czechoslovakia. Jews from the Czech lands arrived in what is now Israel before the creation of Czechoslovakia and have arrived since its division. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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