Talk:Décarie Hot Dogs

Time to move

Is it about time we move this to main space? Peter Horn User talk 14:22, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Peter Horn: Yes, it would seem reasonable to take it to mainspace -- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 13:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Again, it is about time we move this to main space? Peter Horn User talk 01:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Storefront Image

Commons:COM:Deletion requests/File:Décarie Hot-Dogs de Montréal.jpg -- According to WikiMedia Commons, CANADA does not allow Freedom of Panorama (Commons:COM:FOP Canada) if signage appears in the image -- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 13:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

To include or reupload the storefront, we will need to upload it to EN.wikipedia (and FR.wiki) under a WP:FUR -- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 13:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Decarie Hot Dog kitchen

Description: The cooktop behind the counter of the greasy spoon "Decarie Hot Dog"

URL:

• https://www.flickr.com/photos/o_0/30435380311/

License: Creative Commons Attribution {{Cc-by-2.0}}

Link To License Information:

• https://www.flickr.com/photos/o_0/30435380311/
  • https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/

Author/Copyright Holder's Name: Guilhem Vellut

• https://www.flickr.com/photos/o_0/

-- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 14:53, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

What is wrong

What is wrong with the references listed in Draft:Decarie Hot Dog#References? Peter Horn User talk 16:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@AngusWOOF: Helo Angus
What is wrong with the nineteeen references, no more and no less, listed in Draft:Decarie Hot Dog#References? Do we need one hundred references to establish noticeability? Draft:Decarie Hot Dog is no more and no less noticeable than Montreal Pool Room which has less references.
Regards, Peter Horn User talk 17:43, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Peter Horn, please read WP:MILL "Some articles not to create based on common sources only are: A restaurant that has been given reviews in the local papers". You need news sources that are outside of the area. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:24, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

And no, you don't need hundred, you need WP:THREE of the best ones. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

@AngusWOOF: This will do as a starter: . Even Montreal Pool Room has only one outside reference. Peter Horn User talk 20:39, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Then these were there already: Peter Horn User talk 21:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

References

Peter Horn User talk 21:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Cont'd

• VICE - is an international magazine
• Domenic Fazioli (2 January 2019). "A Family's Passion". Nouvelles/News Saint Laurent. Métro Média. p. 5. -- this isn't a restaurant review, its about a family business and local landmark
• Johanna Pellus (22 August 2017). "Nouvelle murale sur Décarie". / DH Montreal (14 September 2017). "Take a look at Saint-Laurent's newest Greek mythology mural". -- this is not a restaurant review, it is about the new mural the restaurant painted on the outside street wall, part of public art in Montreal.
• Bonnie Wurst (24 August 2017). "Valérie Plante – Pre-election Marathon seeing 19 Boroughs". -- this is not a restaurant review, it is about the political life in Montreal, and how this restaurant is a local landmark.
• Access Montréal and Québec City. 1994 ; this is an internatinoal travel guide book published by HARPER, and international publisher
• Kristian Rouse-Robinson (22 August 2016). "Montreal's Most Loved Poutine". Viva Lifestyle & Travel. -- this is a Vancouver (not Montreal) based travel magazine

Per @Peter Horn:, I don't see how it doesn't already have more than THREE outside references. -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 09:23, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Landmark status

Is there a Canadian equivalent of National Register of Historic Places to show this place is an official landmark? Or is this just advertising verbiage among the community. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:53, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

I would say the latter. I had never even heard of Decarie Hot Dogs until recently (this is no Montreal Pool Room, and THAT is a landmark, not this). I think has been made a defacto landmark by a few local fast-food goers because of its longevity. It's more about nostalgia than merit.--Apple2gs (talk) 08:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Does Decarie Hot Dogs merit an article?

How is "Decarie Hot Dogs" of any significance over other fast-food restaurants in Montreal and merit an article? Furthermore, I don't know how this is considered a landmark (this is no Schwartz's or Fairmount Bagel). To be honest, I've lived my whole life in Montreal, traveled up and down Decarie blvd many times over the decades, and never even heard of the restaurant until it had a recent mention on the local TV news.

The food served is not unique: hot dogs, fries and poutine are around every corner, and I don't see anything special in terms of how it's made or served at this location. Sure Decarie Hot Dogs has been around 50 years, but I could say the same for Marathon Souvlaki in Chomedey, and yet it's not considered a landmark or has its own Wikipedia entry. What about Beauty's restaurant or the Montreal Brown Derby for that matter? Those are/were more a landmark than this, and been around MUCH longer. In terms of "famous" people who've eaten here, we have two local mayors, the late-husband/manager of Celine Dion, and a former party leader who was never elected into office? I'd barely raise an eyebrow if I met any of these people. Did something historical happen here, is the building itself historical? To me, apart from being around several decades (that alone does not merit an article) this is just another fast-food place. Perhaps popular among locals, and highly rated among fast-food junkies, but I'd like to hear how it merits an article, let alone considered a national landmark and listed under that table category. Whether this article should be deleted is debatable, but I would vote that it's removed from the table list of Montreal landmarks--Apple2gs (talk) 08:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/weekend-bite-family-run-decarie-hot-dog-marks-a-half-century-in-business-1.4241877

And here's fluff news piece done for Decarie Hot Dogs' 50th anniversary. It pretty much says it all. It's all about the nostalgia among locals (sure it's a quaint little time capsule of sorts, an intimate counter lunch spot with 8 stools, hand painted signs from the 70's and a multi generational staff. The owner's children and now grand children work here it seems). And I'm sure as a greasy-spoon restaurant, the food is good here too and its popular among locals, but does that make it a landmark in Canada? Or the province? Or even the city? Nothing against it, I just don't see how it is a landmark.--Apple2gs (talk) 04:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)