Talk:DNA paternity testing

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"Meta-analysis of a wide variety of genetic studies appears to show that the rates of non-paternity in the general population are on the order of 4% to over 30%, depending on the social group involved. [citation needed]"

Non paternity?? What does that mean? No father, like Jesus?? This needs an explanation.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.232.247.173 (talk • contribs) .

Since paternity is the state of being a father, I would guess that non-paternity is the state of not being a father, so the statistic would refer to people who are not fathers. At least that's how it seems to me. --24.117.122.78 13:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Prenatal Non-invasive paternity testing is a new scientific research area and Dr. Dennis Lo is one of the foremost scientists in the world working on this science. The reference to him is not a plug for anyone but a reference to one of the foremost researchers on this subject in the world and the scientist that holds numerous patents on thcertain aspects of the science.

Structure

I think the introduction is much too long. It should just provide a definition and the briefest of overviews and anything that goes beyond that should be dealt with in greater detail in the individual sections.--Cancun771 21:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure - I've added a to do list with this task. You can create one yourself by adding {{to do}} to the top of the article and then editing the list that appears. This keeps all the tasks together and anyone can see what needs work. Richard001 06:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Name

I agree the name "parental testing" is not the best choice. DNA Parentage Testing to cover both maternity and paternity tests is a much better choice and recognized by the DNA parentage testing regulating body AABB, or family relationship testing, which covers a wider range of DNA tests to determine biological relationships. Since we are talking about mostly testing using DNA technology, adding DNA in the name is not a bad idea either. Can someone change the name to help users find this page more relevant to their search?Universalgenetics (talk) 15:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually the move to change the name of this page to "parental testing" is wrong in my opinion. It sounds like it's some kind of test used to determine your parenting abilities. "Parentage testing" is acutally more appropriate and accurate. You can expand the subject to all dna testing and other bio-relationships but this web page should be limited to paternity and maternity. People are looking for info on "Paternity Testing" no "Parental Testing". Who even heard of "parental testing" before getting redirected here by the use of the entry "Paternity Testing". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.110.137 (talk) 03:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

This article seems to be trying to cover both paternity and maternity, so isn't it a little sexist to have the article at this location? Should it be moved to parental testing, or perhaps maternity and paternity testing. Actually looking at search results I'm seeing 1.4k for parental test, 16.5k for maternity test and 488k for paternity test. If it's a popularity contest, paternity wins hands down. I still don't like leaving maternity out though, and parental is far more elegant, even if less used and possibly ambiguous (e.g. parental income testing). Richard001 06:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

No, The article name of Paternity testing it is not sexist. Mother's already know that they are the mother to a child which they birthed. The issue is then establishing paternity not maternity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.135.202 (talk) 22:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, what both fathers and mothers have is a "presumption" that the child whom they believe to be their own is indeed their offspring. Certainty of maternity is virtually removed once the umbilical cord is (but even before that, In vitro fertilization may account for the incorrect embryo being implanted). Take the examples explored here: http://www.geneforum.org/node/213 74.236.26.254 (talk) 07:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the name parentage test would be much better - it gets a lot more hits on Google. 'Parental test' could refer to any test parents take. Richard001 (talk) 01:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

TIME

How long does it take to get results back from a paternity test. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.233.162 (talk) 23:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd also like to know the above, as it would help with a book I'm writing :) 91.105.58.140 (talk) 00:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Typically UK laboratories deliver results in 5 working days, but I noticed one UK company can produce the results in 8 hours, see Anglia DNA Services — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.54.229.195 (talk) 16:24, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Cost

I think this article should state approximately how much this type of testing costs to get results in the standard amount of time. It should also state much it costs to get the results in the minimum amount of time. The minimum and standard time to get results should be stated. Neutrino1200 (talk) 10:19, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Odd Case

I am an odd case! I have died a number of Times and as such I have memories of even when I was months of age because my Spirit/Soul is older than the body! I can Recall being kidnapped from Germany in about 1961 or 1962 or 1963 in one of my Lives. I can also Recall being kidnapped "twice" from the doorstep of my GrandMother's Home when I was about two to three months of age by a family that is deep into Diplomacy for the U.S.A. This family once had me come by to their Matriarch for a look see as they had claimed that two children had been "exchanged" or "mixed up" at the doctor's office where the children had been born or borne or evaluated for good health; a woman took it into her own hands and exchanged babies when I was set out on the doorsteps to clear my lungs and aid in health (according to my GrandMother) during a snowstorm and bitterly cold weather; the Matriarch decided that I was not a Child/Kid of their clan, although one of theirs appears to be of one of my Dads. My medical record actually shows a "name change" by my now deceased doctor, whether this would qualify as a "legal" name change or not, I do not know; all I know is that I had died at least one Time and therefore am not the same individual as the birth record--maybe the doctor noticed that fact due the kind/manner/type/extent of circumcision, birthmark, tatoos, etc. . ..

Well anyway, the DoD reports my Dad's bloodgroup as O+ and I would swear that it used to say O- (this all could be a lie, as the military wanted that their soldiers' blood not be used for medical aide if they were to become prsoners of war, and that it make the enemy deathly ill--maybe all dogtags say O group bloods???!!!). My Mother's blood, according to her own statement, is B+. My bloodtype is A+; and according to the statements on the internet that I have found, I am not a by-product of those two individuals. What am I to do, as I was kidnapped from Germany in one Life and in another, I may have been Taken from Egypt!!! Realizing that Albert Einstein was kidnapped during WWII, one must wonder how often the U.S.A. kidnaps People/Children!!!Gnostics (talk) 19:06, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

--W h a t? I understand that you have your beliefs, but the second paragraph, jeez, instead of insisting that you were taken from another country or by the military, think about adoption. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:341:300:59C0:A143:5208:4032:48D (talk) 17:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Page rename

This page name doesn't make sense. It sounds like a PG rating calling for "parental guidance", not a paternity test. I suggest a page rename to Paternity test or DNA paternity test. Yoninah (talk) 07:33, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

This is so obviously a grammatical mistake that I boldly went ahead and moved the page to DNA paternity testing. Interestingly, dozens of the piped links on other pages linked to the erroneous page title, followed by "paternity testing". Yoninah (talk) 11:05, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

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Quakery in France and legal ban

"This is partially due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by society, rather than biology"

Far be it for me to doubt the sincerity of the Masonic French Republic's "concern for the peace of the family", but is the nonsense about "psychologists" really true? We need some better sources? Psychology is a pseudo-science, surely it isn't taken that seriously in France to the extent that random quaks can define laws? Claíomh Solais (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

DNA Testing Accuracy

I feel DNA testing isn't as accurate as most people try to convince us, especially my own personal experience and hearing several other experiences which would actually question its accuracy. Tikaani Moon (talk) 16:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)