Talk:DOT-111 tank car

Imploding?

Is this the type of tank car shown imploding here? Abductive (reasoning) 19:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Probably so because the event most likely occurred in North America. But implosion is a rare event because it requires volitionary external suction. Explosions occur more frequently. 66.185.212.81 (talk) 11:31, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

It's certainly not a North American car. It has European buffer-and-chain couplers which are never used in North America. The design may be similar but it's not clear how the construction standards compare.--agr (talk) 12:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

How long is it?

no basic information in one place — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.160.7.210 (talk) 08:19, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

DOT-111 is a set of construction standards (there are different DOT-xxx standards for various different kind of products, DOT-111 is basically for unpressurized flammable liquids), not a set of dimensions. DOT-111 tank cars come in several different sizes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.123.64 (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Redirects

The variant names should redirect there

• DOT111 / CTC111A & CTC 111A
• DOT 111 tank car & DOT111 tank car / CTC111A tank car & CTC 111A tank car
• CTC111A tanker car , CTC 111A tanker car , CTC-111A tanker car / CTC111A tanker , CTC 111A tanker , CTC-111A tanker
• DOT111 tanker car , DOT-111 tanker car , DOT 111 tanker car / DOT111 tanker , DOT-111 tanker , DOT 111 tanker
• CTC111A rail car , CTC 111A rail car , CTC-111A rail car / CTC111A railcar , CTC 111A railcar , CTC-111A railcar / CTC111A rail-car , CTC 111A rail-car , CTC-111A rail-car
• DOT111 rail car , DOT-111 rail car , DOT 111 rail car / DOT111 railcar , DOT-111 railcar , DOT 111 railcar / DOT111 rail-car , DOT-111 rail-car , DOT 111 rail-car
• CTC111A car , CTC 111A car , CTC-111A car
• DOT111 car , DOT-111 car , DOT 111 car

-- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 01:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Please explain the distinction between DOT111 and DOT111A

"DOT-111A cars are equipped with AAR Type E top and bottom shelf Janney couplers...." I didn't see any introductory remarks explaining that. Thanks. 152.180.6.2 (talk) 15:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

The distinction is made clear at http://www.henrycoema.org/forms/RailRoad%20Tank%20Car%20Marking%20System.pdf, but I have a feeling I'll make a mess of things trying to edit the page. Whoever is editing this page is doing a good job, and I hope he adds this information. There are some typos in the .pdf to which I just linked, so maybe another page with the same information will be better.152.180.6.2 (talk) 17:01, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

There is no difference, the A is a delimiter and has no meaning except as a place holder to indicate the number after it is the pressure the car is tested to.

News

Here's an article for someone to use: • Sbmeirow • Talk • 20:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Secrecy of Oil-by-Train Shipments Causes Concern Across the U.S.; The Wall Street Journal; May 22, 2014.

Lots of items like this(including items not behind paywalls) but this article is about the tank itself, not the movement of commodities.--Daffydavid (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Clean up

Article is is in need of clean up. Some items are in the wrong sections, others are way too wordy. I will try to do some when I have time but feel free to help out. Thanks. --Daffydavid (talk) 05:15, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

> I made some edits to clean up certain obvious errors and inconsistencies - more needs to be dome, will chip in as time permits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.216.34.234 (talk) 01:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

As of this typing (10:00 PM / Eastern US Timezone), the link citation at the end of the article for the NTSB PDF, "DOT-111 Tank Car Design" leads to a 404 page. That PDF does not appear to be archived anywhere obvious on Google, although I'll note my Google skills are rather lacking. If anyone out there has a PDF, maybe they could archive it somewhere responsible and update the link? I don't know that I can help further, but if you need to find me personally, I'm at laserhawk64@gmail.com 2600:6C60:5800:8472:3D23:47DF:85C5:C230 (talk) 02:04, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

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2023 Ohio train derailment

Maybe it should be mentioned in this article that numerous DOT-111 tank cars failed and lost their loads in the 2023 Ohio train derailment, whereas none of the newer-style DOT-105J tank cars carrying vinyl chloride were breached in the derailment. Source: testimony in this video of the second day of the NTSB hearing on the 2023 Ohio train derailment, starting at 6 hrs., 28 min. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-QON0Tel1Q 173.88.246.138 (talk) 16:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

DOT-105 tank car

Do we have a Wikipedia article about the DOT-105 tank car, which is generally regarded as superior to the DOT-111 design in terms of its durability? If not, why not, and can we correct this situation? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 16:48, 4 July 2023 (UTC)