Talk:Daallo Airlines Flight 159

Airport (1970 film)

This is very similar to the scenario and damage apparent in the Burt Lancaster, Dean Martin movie, Airport.

Seems it was this 1970 one, but I really don't see the similarity. Even if it was identical, we'd be waiting for WP:RS to make any connection. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC) p.s. did someone say insurance?

German Article

The article states that there is a corresponding page on the German Wikipedia. I can't seem to find this. LoudLizard (talk) 21:26, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

The link is in the left navigation frame under "Languages" MilborneOne (talk) 19:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I see. Thank you! LoudLizard (talk) 21:52, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Flight number

ASN lists the flight number as "D3 159"; D3 is the IATA code for the airline, so it should be "Flight 159", not "Flight 3159". Meltdown627 (talk) 19:31, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Agree, article moved and tweaked. MilborneOne (talk) 19:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the input. Didn't realise that.LoudLizard (talk) 19:55, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

The "See also" section

IMHO, this needs to be restricted to those incidents where a bomb was involved and the aircraft made a successful landing. Incidents due to maintenance failures are outside the scope of this article. Mjroots (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Wholly agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Cause

De Telegraaf (in Dutch) are reporting that the dead passenger was a suicide bomber. Mjroots (talk) 21:14, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Many sources now agreeing, suspect was in a wheelchair: The Mirror, New York Daily News, WSJ, Telegraph, IBT, etc Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Now that this story is on the Main Page, strongly suggest an update to include this detail. Such an exploitation of a security loophole seems to have been unique. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:22, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Pilot

Am I correct in thinking that Vlakto is as shortened form of Vladimir? Also, do you think that the pilot's age and ethnicity is pertinent information in the lead? Orange Suede Sofa suggests this is not important information. LoudLizard (talk) 19:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

It Vlatko not Vlakto, but yes it seems to be a "Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian diminutive of Vladimir." But he's referred to as "Vlatko" in all the WP:RS sources I have seen, so maybe that is his preference. Just like William Henry prefers Bill, etc. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:12, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Martinevans123: OK, thanks. In that case, would you agree that it would be most appropriate to refer to him as the name he is most commonly referred to, in line with Wikipedia's naming convention guidelines?

Yes, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:37, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

That Turkish Airlines flight..

Anyone know that type of aircraft was scheduled for what's believed to have been the original target, namely a Turkish Airlines flight? Thanks.

wiki-ny-2007 (talk) 18:16, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Wiki-ny-2007: I presume the flight being referenced by the Al Jazeera Article is the Mogadishu-Djibouti-Istanbul flight, THY686, since this is the only Turkish Airlines flight operating from Djibouti. According to Google Flights and FlightAware, this route, both between Istanbul and Djibouti and between Djibouti and Mogadishu, is normally served by an A320. LoudLizard (talk) 19:24, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

- ah, thanks. So the planes were roughly the same size and configuration. I had been considering the possibility that the original target was smaller, hence more likely to have been brought down by the explosion. The fact that the explosion happened at 10,000 feet rather than cruising altitude, plus lots of luck... made the big difference. wiki-ny-2007 (talk) 17:41, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Map

I think a map would be appropriate for this article, but am not sure how to create one. Could someone make one that shows the location of Aden Adde International Airport, Djibouti–Ambouli International Airport and the location that the burnt body was found (Balad). Something similar to this map (which can't be used due to copyright restrictions. LoudLizard (talk) 18:17, 13 February 2016 (UTC).

Never mind, I've managed to make one and will add it to the article shortly. LoudLizard (talk) 18:57, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

I've now added the map. Would appreciate someone checking I haven't done anything wrong. LoudLizard (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Well done. Looks fine to me. That tiny, almost unreadable, km scale bar is not your fault! I guess country names might be a nice addition? Possibly intended flight path? No strong views. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:17, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Possible letter from Somali Embassy

Somalian local media has speculated that a letter (dated March 2015) from the Somali Embassy in Ankara requested that the Turkish Embassy in Mogadishu issue a diplomatic visa for Abdullahi Abdisalam Borleh, the passenger who died in the bombing. There are not many sources for this information, and the sources I could find don't seem very reliable, so I don't want to add it to the article yet. There are two websites I could find that mention it: Webpage 1, Webpage 2, both in Somali. I originally heard about this from this tweet, but obviously that's not a good source of information either! LoudLizard (talk) 19:57, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

This article also mentions the letter writing that "In itself that is no great surprise. Somalis have a hard time getting visas and often pay bribes to leave the country, so the referral letter does not necessarily imply bomber had connections inside the Somali government." LoudLizard (talk) 21:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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