Talk:Dagobert Karl de Daldorff

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Latest comment: 1 year ago2 comments1 person in discussion

He was not a baron. The noble family von Daldorff was extinct a century before his birth, and they were not barons.

In his (cited) article of the scarabs he writes his latinized name: Dagoberti Caroli de Daldorff. The 'de' is the german 'von' (pronounced 'fon'), 1760-1860 Danish officers were ordered to add th 'von' to their names!

'Ingobart' must be a mistake.

His obituarist (cited) writes that he was born in the 1760'es in or around Moskva in Russia, i.e. he does not know. The court was in St Petersborg, and all Germans were expelled from there 1762, and there is no trace of any Daldorff around that time. All the other biographers cited write: Born in Kiel. 195.249.232.63 (talk) 16:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Source to noble family von Daldorff:

Siebmacher's Großes Wappenbuch. 1970-1999. vol 1-35 + A-H.

Here: vol 16 C p 20 and 18 D p 25.

Source to officers' 'von':

Harald Holck in Personalhistorisk Tidsskrift 1923 p 243.

Fabritius & Hatt: Håndbog i slægtsforskning. 1963. (Manual of genealogy).

Source to expelling 1762 from Moskva:

Dmitry D. Zworykin, Ph.D. Senior Researcher, Moskva Univerity. Personal communication.

Best regards

Steen Thomsen 195.249.232.63 (talk) 17:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

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