Talk:Dalmat (yacht)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 01:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that the Austro-Hungarian yacht Dalmat carried Archduke Franz Ferdinand on his journey to Sarajevo in 1914 and returned with his body? Source: "Franz Ferdinand had no time for such diversions. From Ploce, at the mouth of the Neretva, he sailed on the Dalmat, a smaller vessel better suited than a battleship to river travel, to Metkovic, the town that marked the end of Croatia and the beginning of the territory of Bosnia and Hercegovina." from: Bridge, Adrian (5 February 2016). "First World War centenary: Franz Ferdinand's final journey". The Telegraph. Retrieved 7 December 2021. and "Her most celebrated moment came in 1914 when she was used to carry the body of Archduke Franz Ferdinand back to Vienna via Trieste after he was assassinated in Sarajevo" from: Owen, Richard (4 April 2003). "Italy and Croatia at odds over Habsburg yacht". The Times (page 20). No. 67728. Retrieved 7 December 2021.
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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 20:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC).

• New article that was moved to mainspace on 7 December 2021‎‎‎‎‎ is 5,264 characters and nominated on the same day. No copyvios detected and duplication detector of online sources[1][2] reveal no close paraphrasing issues (AGF sources which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Hook is 134 characters long (under 200 character max.) and is interesting. Refs 7 and 11 (verifying the hook) are reliable sources from The Times and The Daily Telegraph, respectively (AGF the former as there is no preview available). QPQ done. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:39, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

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Namesakes

Dumelow you might want to check again a couple of things regarding the ship's namesakes. I've never heard of Dalmat used as a synonym for Dalmatia. However, there were Dalmatae (Dalmati in Italian) which seem awfully similar. Dalmatae/Dalmati is a group noun though, I have no idea what would be the singular or if the ship was named after them. As the second point: Istranka certainly isn't Slovene for Istria (that would be Istra - you can check the interlanguage link at the Istria article to verify). On the other hand, Istranka is Croatian language demonym (feminine form) for a resident/native of Istria. I have no idea if it's the same in Slovenian or if the ship was named after the demonym though.--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes, I see the problem on Istranka. The source gives "a woman from Istria (Istranka)" I took the translation to be for the last word only, not the entire phrase. I have to admit I assumed Dalmat was related to Dalmatia but haven't been able to source it, I'll remove that one - Dumelow (talk) 07:45, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I've found that Dalmat is an alternative name for the Dalmatae tribe so added that - Dumelow (talk) 08:04, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Last surviving

The article currently says "in 1998 when she was reportedly the last surviving vessel of the Austro-Hungarian Navy". This is clearly dubious. See Yugoslav monitor Sava which is still afloat as museum on the Sava River at Belgrade. Perhaps "oldest surviving vessel"? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I've removed it, the source says "currently for sale - apparently the only - real existing relic of the former AH Navy", which is a bit loose - Dumelow (talk) 07:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, probably best given the wording in the source. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)